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Graphmastur
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TheStorm wrote: There is a lawsuit currently in progress with BrandonW and a few to the other people who received the notices through the EFF see http://www.eff.org/ for info. Though I'm not 100% sure on the details I sure TI is going to have some consequences for their false notices.
Well, let's hope we don't lose. (Knocks on wood)
I wish he did updates. (Goes to brandonw.net...) |
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DigiTan
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| Yeah, I'm curious to learn EFF's approach to these cases. |
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travise
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| Are you sure it's a lawsuit? I thought that the initial plan was for EFF to send out letters to TI, wait a couple of weeks, then we put the keys back up and see if TI goes any further. |
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TheStorm
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TravisE wrote: Are you sure it's a lawsuit? I thought that the initial plan was for EFF to send out letters to TI, wait a couple of weeks, then we put the keys back up and see if TI goes any further.
Like I said I'm not 100% on the detials, you may be righ,t but last I heard there was a lawsuit in progress. |
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brandonw
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We are not discussing the details publicly, but yes, the EFF is involved with several people (myself included) to fight these DMCA notices. We've done nothing wrong by posting the keys, and we are fighting for our right to display them (and I personally have no doubt that we'll prevail).
I have no idea what'll happen to TI, but I believe we'll all soon be able to post the keys without fear of TI legal threats. |
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critor
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brandonw wrote: I have no idea what'll happen to TI,
We don't care.
They aren't able to build interesting calculators, or develop interesting operating systems any more.
When I'm contacting TI-Cares about z80/68k calculators, they never answer to my questions... They usually say that I should look on TI web site, and that they won't provide any information, application or OS that isn't available on their web site.
(they don't send old OS any more)
TI-Cares don't care about any not-nSpire calculator.
TI only believes in nSpire.
So let's crack the nSpire, and then we might have new interesting calculators... or nothing (which wouldn't be worse than now) |
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TheStorm
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Its Nspire not nSpire, look at the about screen if you need proof.
But yeah it does seem that they've put all their money in one ship, which seems to be sinking rather rapidly.
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DigiTan
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critor wrote: brandonw wrote: I have no idea what'll happen to TI,
We don't care.
Right on! After all, they're the sole source of these platforms. So, this couldn't possibly backfire on the end user. :roll:
Personally, I just hope TI uses this snafu as a hint to make its product development strategy more community-driven like it once was--rather than continue in this new direction they've been experimenting with. It would clearly save both sides at lot of unnecessary trouble.
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IAmACalculator
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| Honestly, the programming/hacking portion of their market is minuscule in comparison with the OTHER thousands of people who buy their calculators. Heck, TI's calculator division is pretty minuscule in comparison with all the semiconductor stuff they do. Really, as long as they keep turning out calculators that are fairly easy to use and faster than the last model, people will buy them. In the grand scheme of things, we don't really matter that much to them. |
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brandonw
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IAmACalculator wrote: Honestly, the programming/hacking portion of their market is minuscule in comparison with the OTHER thousands of people who buy their calculators. Heck, TI's calculator division is pretty minuscule in comparison with all the semiconductor stuff they do. Really, as long as they keep turning out calculators that are fairly easy to use and faster than the last model, people will buy them. In the grand scheme of things, we don't really matter that much to them.
Except that their latest model isn't faster or easier to use than the previous ones. They can't even produce a usable calculator anymore...it was released before the OS was complete (it still isn't), and even teachers and students complain about it, not just us. |
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critor
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IAmACalculator wrote: Honestly, the programming/hacking portion of their market is minuscule in comparison with the OTHER thousands of people who buy their calculators. Heck, TI's calculator division is pretty minuscule in comparison with all the semiconductor stuff they do. Really, as long as they keep turning out calculators that are fairly easy to use and faster than the last model, people will buy them. In the grand scheme of things, we don't really matter that much to them.
Programmers are a very small portion... let's admit it.
But student who download and use programs, are an important portion.
And all students can see on the Internet that:
- there are much less programes for the Nspire than for the z80/68k...
- the quality (graphics / user interaction) of these programs is very inferior |
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thepenguin77
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critor wrote: But student who download and use programs, are an important portion.
And all students can see on the Internet that:
- there are much less programes for the Nspire than for the z80/68k...
- the quality (graphics / user interaction) of these programs is very inferior
Last year I actually had two friends buy Nspires because they thoght they were better. But after a week of school, they took them back when they learned that there were no games. |
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Graphmastur
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| Any news on this, brandon? Did you go to court? |
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calcdude84se
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I could post my opinion on this, but it would just be another rant  . However, I would be interested to know where this is going legally.
Basically, my question is: How are we (community or those individuals explicitly involved) coming along in this legal battle (I hoped United-TI would never have to face things like the DMCA, but it is). Are we winning, losing? Has anything significant happened?
The only thing I can think I really know is that a lot of us think TI is in a losing position.
(I hate legal matters...) |
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brandonw
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More will be posted on this everywhere tomorrow. It's going well, and TI doesn't have a legal leg to stand on.
I'm confident that we'll all prove that we have the right to post the keys anywhere we want and use them as we wish. |
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Graphmastur
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That's good to hear. But why tomorrow. You know the saying, Never put to tomorrow, what you can do today.
Thanks for the update! |
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calcdude84se
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| Yes, thanks. We'll follow this to the end. (I will, anyway. :biggrin:) |
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Mapar007
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| Seconded. |
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Harrierfalcon
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Michael
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