Doors CS 6.1

[luby]

Hey, for the battery check part, couldn't you use this?

[TheStorm]

[mertz$$]

have it love it great

ummm
the start menu really has no point tho

[elfprince13]

[brandonw]

[elfprince13]

[TheStorm]

Actually it would because he already has different code for each calculator model.

[kermmartian]

[Liazon]

well, it's good to hear you're working on this again.

[kermmartian]

[TheStorm]

I think you should stab at optimization before you add new code cuz as newbish as I am, I can still optimize some of that code.

[DJ Omnimaga]

having DoorCS in one flash page would easily make me use DoorCS over MirageOs or CrunchyOs, as I was always using it on emulators when it was 16384 bytes

[kermmartian]

[TheStorm]

Well for one the easter egg has ld a,0 a few times in it which we all know can be xor a or how about just delete it all together because that easter egg, no offence is a huge waist of space you can do a credits page in way that uses less code. Also I would suggest putting calcnet into a separate app or make it a standalone library because no one uses it and I don't see a reason for it in dcs or at least make it an add-on. I had a few more but I can't remember them at the moment.

[kermmartian]

Thanks for the opinions, I'll see what I can do. I doubt I'll listen to you about Cn2 though.

[Delnar_Ersike]

Great to hear news about continued progress, even if I have abandoned DoorsCS on my calc in favor of MirageOS's list interface (I still remember suggesting such a feature to be implemented as an addon for DCS6). Here are another few suggestions that have no doubt been uttered more than once before:

• Creating a "Lite" version that removes much of the eyecandy features in favor of a smaller size (1 Flash page instead of 2)
  
• Integration of Office DE and/or mobiletunes into DCS
  
• The option to change interfaces between using the arrow keys to navigate the mouse and using the arrow keys to navigate selections (the latter essentially being similar to the list-interface addon I suggested for a previous version)
  
• The option of limiting the types of files being viewed at one time (BASIC only, assembly only, locked only, unlocked only, unarchived only, archived only, etc.)
  
• Similar in purpose to the first suggestion and in function to the second suggestion: creating a "Full" version with more eyecandy, some programs integrated, and/or extra features that will not be used by programs developed for DCS (to clarify: a "yes" feature would be the addition of a pre-installed icon-editing tool, while a "no" feature would be the expanding of the CALCnet2 protocol)
  

Again, I am not a supervisor, much less an assembly programmer, so neither do I know the technical limitations nor limitations imposed by your available time and your own ambitions.

[kermmartian]

Crosspost from Cemetech.
[quote name='"Delnar_Ersike"']Great to hear news about continued progress, even if I have abandoned DoorsCS on my calc in favor of MirageOS's list interface (I still remember suggesting such a feature to be implemented as an addon for DCS6). Here are another few suggestions that have no doubt been uttered more than once before:

• Creating a "Lite" version that removes much of the eyecandy features in favor of a smaller size (1 Flash page instead of 2)
  
  
• Integration of Office DE and/or mobiletunes into DCS
  

[/quote]
Wait, didn't you just contradict yourself? I have a problem with removing the "eyecandy" (ie, the GUI and the GUI API) because all that's left is a a list of programs that don't support Doors CS 6 programs that use the GUI, in other words a MOS/ Ion/ BASIC/ ASM shell, which is nothing new, exciting, or original in any way. Completely removing Doors CS's GUI as well as the entire GUI API system would be the only way to even approach 16K. Oh, and CALCnet2 as well.

[quote name='"Delnar_Ersike"']

• The option to change interfaces between using the arrow keys to navigate the mouse and using the arrow keys to navigate selections (the latter essentially being similar to the list-interface addon I suggested for a previous version)
  

[/quote]
This already exists in the form of the TabFunctions SE.

[quote name='"Delnar_Ersike"']

• The option of limiting the types of files being viewed at one time (BASIC only, assembly only, locked only, unlocked only, unarchived only, archived only, etc.)
  

[/quote] That's an interesting idea, how do you propose implementing that?

[quote name='"Delnar_Ersike"']

• Similar in purpose to the first suggestion and in function to the second suggestion: creating a "Full" version with more eyecandy, some programs integrated, and/or extra features that will not be used by programs developed for DCS (to clarify: a "yes" feature would be the addition of a pre-installed icon-editing tool, while a "no" feature would be the expanding of the CALCnet2 protocol)
  

Again, I am not a supervisor, much less an assembly programmer, so neither do I know the technical limitations nor limitations imposed by your available time and your own ambitions.[/quote] See my comment on your first suggestion. Thanks for the thoughts, you're helping to expand my brainstorming a lot.

[alexrudd]

I don't really use DoorCS because I see no advantage to the GUI. It takes longer and requires more concentration to do pretty much anything for which there isn't another shortcut key. However, I have a few suggestions. (Note that I'm running 6.0.0 since I've never bothered to upgrade. Perhaps some of them are fixed)

One thing that irritates me is the message you get when the RAM is cleared. Everytime this happens I silently yell at the message, which is completely pointless.

Another is the main menu. If you're going to put so much focus on the GUI, at least make it usable. The selection area should go to the bottom left corner of the screen. It's not very intuitive to move to that area of the screen, "click", and then wonder why nothing has happened because you found the tiny area between button and screen corner. Similar problem for almost all of the other buttons (bottom right X, close in menus, etc)

The shortcut arrows for programs don't provide any useful information, and just clutter up the interface.

The Power menu in the main is just ... terrible. I do remember something about it being improved in a later version, so hopefully this isn't relevant any more.

DoorsCS has a number of impressive technical achievements; it's just that I don't find it very useful besides as a demo for those features.

[TheStorm]

For a light version you could use an Icon based GUI instead of a mouse based GUI. And I still feel that calcnet2 should be separate because it is a large amout of code that no-one uses. Also tabfuncs is a step in the right direction but it still takes it take far to long at access primary functions. The ram cleared message is useless because all of the settings should have been maitained in the archived appvar anyway.
also you still need a sorting please wait message. If you go with an icon based gui you would also have to add more hotkeys for common functions. Also right clicking should bring up the discription along with the right click menu. oh and about the description field thing because of that the calc wil nolonger apd because that is active also the calc will not turn off untill that is closed when you press ON. The GUI is nice but it makes it take longer to do basic things. And that needs to be fixed if you wish to make dcs more user friendly. You don't even need the "x" in the corner because pressing clear does the same thing a lot faster. You could make the menus appear along the bottom like MOS so that common functions are fewer keypress to access. If you need more than five functions in menu then group them and put them in one of the five slots and have that be you popup menus.
Also you should standardizre the basic prog header to be

[Liazon]