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Darth Android
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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 07:54:33 pm    Post subject:

so, mirage had its own personal basic parser? wow! thumbs up for the attempt!

use mirage to hide/protect you basic progs, just dont run them from it! //answer to serveral questions in this thread
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Babyboy


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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 08:42:43 pm    Post subject:

um... my prog showed up in mirage but when i clicked on it, it cleared the screen and went back to mirage Neutral
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SnugenZ


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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 08:46:21 pm    Post subject:

Unlike Mirage, hopefully WallsXP -- Ahem -- Maybe -- Ahem -- Android can put a good note into adm. wiggin (I believe) to make a good shell that supports basic shtuff
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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 08:59:05 pm    Post subject:

well, WallsXP and DragonOS will should have support for basic. we do a bcall(_parserinp) and the calc uses it's parser to run it like normal. apps (mirage and nimbus) cant do that...they have to make their own parser or add a homehook to run the app when the basic prog finishes, exit the app, run the prog, and wait for the hook to call the app again.
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SnugenZ


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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 09:15:06 pm    Post subject:

I will make sure my school is overrun with WallsXP -- whens it coming out =p -- December?
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Darth Android
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Posted: 30 Nov 2003 09:17:15 pm    Post subject:

y wallsxp? y not dragonos? granted, i started programming it friday the 28 of november, and so far have not had any outside help yet.
besides.. which sounds more powerful: a brick wall or a 30 ft tall fire breathing dragon with razor sharp claws?


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Posted: 01 Dec 2003 04:25:40 pm    Post subject:

SnugenZ wrote:
f you could find me a list that;d be great!

I haven't checked the whole catalog, but I have checked the entire prgm, draw, list, matrix, and math menus, plus some others I commonly use in Basic programming. The only three things I found that clear RAM are: Input, Prompt, and Goto (but not Label or Menu ) - all the others work fine. Some other issues are that 1) The first getKey in your program might have the value of 21 or 105 that you used to run the program and 2) Archive/Unarchive work about 2.5 times slower in Mirage.

Unfortunately, this doesn't help for SE users... after you decide to quit MirageOS, it turns off the calculator, then clears your RAM. This happens regardless of what's in the program. I can only hope Nimbus will come up with a way to fix this...

Why would you want to hide your programs if you won't run them from Mirage? You'll have to unhide them to run them normally. And locking is much easier through CalcSys.
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 01 Dec 2003 05:31:24 pm    Post subject:

well, WALLSxp is kind of, well, dead............................


go for DragonOS, definately Razz


sorry for all those who had their hopes up.... i just got too frustrated with what i could, and couldnt do...
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Darth Android
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Posted: 01 Dec 2003 07:26:38 pm    Post subject:

*a dragon walks up from the shadows*
*the dragon digs a pit*
*then the dragon carefully lays WallsXP and a TI-83+ Graphing calculator inside*
*he fills the pit and solemly returns to the shadows, vowing to learn from WallsXP and be better*

barring accidents, dragons live forever. so if i have to put this dragon in a bubble, i will!
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SnugenZ


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Posted: 01 Dec 2003 08:43:57 pm    Post subject:

Hey, so uh Android -- Whens Dragon OS coming out =D
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Darth Android
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Posted: 01 Dec 2003 08:47:56 pm    Post subject:

like nimbus, it will probably come out in stages. i rally dont know, but im shooting for sometime next summer. i dont work well with deadlines
the biggest thing will be file structure, as you will be able to nest folders as memory allows
the one pictured will tell you your battery status, if you want it. Smile
my final goal is to make it so you never have to use the tios at all.


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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 02 Dec 2003 06:25:35 pm    Post subject:

sounds cool....


thank you for buring WALLSxp for me... and you even took the liberty of putting a calc in with it....
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Spyderbyte


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Posted: 16 Dec 2003 04:37:31 pm    Post subject:

They stay in your memory, just the program menu and the memory menu "can't find them"

Spyderbyte


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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 16 Dec 2003 05:45:04 pm    Post subject:

actually, that isnt totally true...


Mirage(and other hiding programs) just subtract 40h from the first char of the name, so the ti-os says "Uh oh, that is invalid, better not show it."
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Fr0sty


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Posted: 17 Dec 2003 08:49:11 pm    Post subject:

I'm not an expert at this, but i'm almost positive you could- If you're talking about hidden from the program list, mirage does that and runs it. If not, then all you'd have to do is make a program that adds the characters back to the name or one that unhides it, runs, then hides it again.
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 17 Dec 2003 10:42:12 pm    Post subject:

adding the 40h back to the first char is the same thing as unhiding it :P

it could be run, but would need assembly made for it.
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NETWizz
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Posted: 17 Dec 2003 11:21:13 pm    Post subject:

That takes only one line of asm btw.

Something like
set R,(IY+offsetflags)
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