Asm in 28 days or something else

[simplethinker]

This is obviously only for those who have a decent knowledge of asm programming.

As I was looking through the z80 & assembly forum I noticed a ton of topics with questions from/about asm28days. A lot of them were started by many of the people who now answer most asm questions/are the ones making incredible asm games. I'm just curious to see how much of a monopoly Sigma has :)

(I put this in Open Topic since it's not really "Development and Programming")

[darkstone knight]

asm in 28 days is, by far, the best tut i found on the web

the only "hard" thing about it is the first few lessons...

[benryves]

CoBB's Z80 guide and AsmGuru for me.

[bananaman]

I likewise used CoBB's z80 guide.

[Galandros]

I learned all the basis and most I know from ASM in 28 days.

I tried at first ASMguru but it was bad organized and hard to get along who start from scratch. Giving an example, the direct input tutorial was kind of stupid to someone who knows nothing of low functioning. He didn't know how that worked and made the tutorial... And understanding how the things work is always the best way to learn. And because of that there was a legacy of people who just copy and paste the code of direct input from ASMguru... Besides I understand the author difficulty to find how that worked without easy documentation at that time...

After I read a little Cobb's which has some good complements to ASM in 28 days and other documentation around. I have to review many things from the TI-OS documentation but only after I get good habits in "no-stub".

There are more 2 or 3 tutorials around. One is similar to ASMguru. (reminds) The others are their own style. And there is some documentation of z80 around that served to me as complements. a I have to post my large links of calculator stuff.


The Sigma was and still is definitely a great contribution to ASM programming in TI83+/84. I have being watching his new tutorial. >_>

[Mapar007]

AsmGuru meant nothing to me at first.... asmin28 is by far the best!

[Harrierfalcon]

What happens if we learned by referencing ASMin28Days, AsmGuru, and CoBB's along with everything we guessed?

[simplethinker]

[DigiTan]

I voted "other."

My major reference was the Wouter Demunyck tutorial at karma.ticalc.org. It's pretty fair to say it's the 82/CrASH equivalent of Asm in 28 days--yet it stands apart in a lot of ways. Even after all this time, I still reference it a couple times a year for its detailed Shift & Rotate Chapter. Or others.

[CoBB]

If we’re talking about Z80 asm, I picked it up from various online sources and my own experiments, since there were no decent guides back then and one had to wade through an incredible mass of misinformation... Yes, I wrote my own guide out of sheer frustration. But I already had several years of x86 assembly experience when I started playing around with Z80, so it was no big problem. As for x86, I learned it from a book and by looking at disassembled code in a debugger, since I hadn’t even heard of internet at that age...

[Galandros]

Now remains to know where sigma learned assembly for z80. xD


Talking about assembly made me curious about x86 and ARM assembly. Maybe I make a post for that discussion. I have already fed my curiosity in wikipedia
Hopefully the syntax of x86 is similar with that we use for z80. But ARM seem to be quite different besides the instructions available seem similar. (I only saw a bit of ARM source)

[bananaman]

One thing that helped me learn z80 asm was learning asm for the RISC architecture. I found a book that teaches programming specifically for the spim simulator of a 32 bit mips machine. The biggest difference is that you have built in commands to multiply and divide and when you do a call, the value is not stored on the stack, but rather in a register. Therefore, if you want to make a call within a call you have to store the $ra register onto the stack yourself. It forces you to be rigorous in how you set up the frames on the stack for calling sub-routines.

[brandonw]

Sadly, I learned off AsmGuru, since the 83+ didn't exist at the time and it really was the best you could do. It took a long time to learn because neither me nor the tutorial author knew what we were doing, but we stumbled along together until eventually we knew what we were doing. He eventually got hired by TI and wrote AppGuru, so it's hard for me to hate either him or AsmGuru.

If someone were to ask me to recommend something to use, though, it would be Learn TI-83 Plus Assembly in 28 Days. No one should even look at AsmGuru unless you're learning the 83.