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JoeImp
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Let's get some action in here. Throw me some C/C++/Java to poke through and check out. Throw me a link to something you find interesting regarding this topic. Give me something to do :(
[EDIT] If the code isn't 10000 lines I'll debug/test/optimize it a bit for you. Give you some input.
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alexrudd
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| know anything about Panda3D? It's a bunch of libraries for game development in Python that I'm trying to figure out. I just figured it out a few minutes ago, but I spent 2 days trying to figure out how to use keypresses. I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions about Python. |
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JoeImp
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| Posted: 13 Sep 2006 10:25:58 am Post subject: |
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| No clue, I've never used Python. |
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benryves
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Not sure what it is you're looking for, really... About the only C code I have on the Big Bad Internets is this code, for converting MUS to MIDI. The formatting is not my own (I used K&R indentation, as I cannot abide BSD/Allman).
As I'm more of a C# programmer, maybe there's something quirky (or just plain wrong) about my C code, so if that's what you're aiming to comment on, be my guest 
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JoeImp
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Wow that's pretty much an exact replica of my style. Same formatting, naming conventions, layout, returns, pretty much everything. Like looking at my own code.
Why can't you abide by BSD/Allman? Just seems so logical to me, everything is easy to see, in nicely laid out blocks. Just makes sense to me. Then again, it's the only one I've ever used, so I'm incredibly biased. |
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benryves
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JoeImp wrote: Why can't you abide by BSD/Allman?
[post="88186"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] It's a fairly religious issue 
I prefer my braces to line up with the opening statement, and sticking the brace on a new line means that instead of a code block being a complete block you have the opening statement, a space, then the main contents. It's really a visual thing, as when I see
Code:
if (xyz) {
/* stuff */
}
...I can follow up the } and see the "if" it matches with, whereas with
Code:
if (xyz)
{
/* stuff */
}
...the } matches up with a {, which tells me nothing, so I need to look up a line.
Thankfully modern IDEs will reformat code to your own personal preference when you paste it in, so it's not too much of a hassle any more.  |
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JoeImp
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When you have nested crap, I think this format makes it a lot easier to get a grasp on what is going on. Everything lines up perfectly, easily showing what code goes to what control structure.
[EDIT] - I've typed like 5 different paragraphs on why I feel this is better, but I've deleted all of them because I can't fully explain what I'm thinking. It just feels right. :P
[EDIT 2] - I'd rather have an easier time grasping a complicated section of code than worrying about having to read an extra line above. Should be able to pretty much instantly read/analyze the lines that are on the screen and then proceed to understanding the logic, which is where this formatting aids.
Code:
if ( var1 < 3)
{
blah;
if (var2 != 3456)
{
function();
function2();
if (!function3(blah2))
{
int blah3 = 3;
int blah4 = 6;
if (function4() != 3)
{
function5();
}
}
}
}
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Arcane Wizard
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Code:
if ( var1 < 3 ) {
blah;
if ( var2 != 3456 ) {
function();
function2();
if ( !function3( blah2 ) ) {
int blah3 = 3;
int blah4 = 6;
if ( function4() != 3 ) {
function5();
}
}
}
}
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JoeImp
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Except the code blocks blend together with the if statements creating one big block which then must be disassembled and not in any way more helpful to your comprehension of the code.
[EDIT] - And when you have actual code, lines of different length and composition, it becomes even harder to read, whereas mine is not affected.
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Arcane Wizard
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| Doesn't the indent take care of all that? |
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JoeImp
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Yes, the same way as the indent in mine takes care of it. We're talking such a small change, just the position of one brace. I feel moving that brace down a line does more good than just leaving it useless at the end of the line.
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sgm
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The opening brace in K&R style tends to get lost against the right parenthesis.
Really the only thing K&R has going for it is that you can see more source lines at once.
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Arcane Wizard
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JoeImp wrote: Yes, the same way as the indent in mine takes care of it. We're talking such a small change, just the position of one brace. I feel moving that brace down a line does more good than just leaving it useless at the end of the line.
[post="88225"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] And the parenthesis/character spaces.
How about
Code:
if ( lawl ) {
ohnoez!
ohnoez!
ohnoez!
}
if ( more
lawl
than
fits
!??? ) {
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
}
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JoeImp
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Code:
if ( more
lawl
than
fits
!??? ) {
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
}
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Code:
if ( abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw )
{
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!
}
[EDIT]
Quote: Really the only thing K&R has going for it is that you can see more source lines at once.
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Arcane Wizard
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| And not having to look up one or more lines to see when a block of code is being run. |
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benryves
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sigma wrote: The opening brace in K&R style tends to get lost against the right parenthesis.
[post="88228"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
Yes, and that's a good thing. You don't need to see it, one can assume it's there. ;)
Unless, of course, you are fond of doing crazy things like:
Code:
if (x < 0)
x *= -1;
...which I prefer as:
Code:
if (x < 0) x *= -1;
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Arcane Wizard
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| And which won't have a closing brace. : ) |
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elfprince13
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| hehe, I love K&R, although I'll skip If statements altogether if they're just being used for assignment and go with ternary operators..... |
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i prefer K&R because the statement looks like it is a part of the conditional operator; it feels more natrual that way; at least more so than having the conditon above and then the statement starting all the way below it; tho i am quite biased as K&R is the only formate I have used signifitcantly (which ill define to be over 1500 lines)
also when i program on school computer which have a lousy 800x600 size screen having that extra 4 or 5 lines really helps |
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JoeImp
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Eh, well, I've been using C++ for 7 or 8 years now. The 4 books I have that use only C++ all use BSD/Allman, every Professor I've had all used BSD/Allman, even my highschool C++ teacher used BSD/Allman. I'm majoring in Software Engineering and minoring in Computer Science, very few of my colleagues use K&R. Since C++ is object oriented, I see moving to a more object orientated coding/formatting approach as sensible rather than trying to blend code blocks into other code to get an extra 4 or 5 lines out of my screen.
To be fair I've had one professor that used K&R. He was programming in java and was a CS major ... don't know what that says  |
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