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AlienCC
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Posted: 03 Jun 2006 03:58:14 pm    Post subject:

SilverCalcKnight wrote:
Adding info about the 86 now. Isn't the 85 just the ancestor of the 86?
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If you want to put it that way, the TI-85 was the first to have the link port. I know this other topic is about a summary of calc shells but it also contains some useful information that is somewhat in line with what you're putting here.
http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=3702&st=0

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Posted: 03 Jun 2006 04:15:40 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for the info, AlienCC.

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samnmax777


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Posted: 04 Jun 2006 12:11:28 am    Post subject:

Technically the 86 hasn't "officially" been discontinued, but it's so obsucre that it might as well be. Although I don't see why, I find it easier to use than the 83 series, on top of that, it's still more powerful mathematically without extra progs/apps. Overall the only issue I have with it is that it seems to be less stable with asm than the 85, don't know if you would really consider that a con.
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Posted: 04 Jun 2006 12:34:54 am    Post subject:

Finished update. : )

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leofox
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Posted: 04 Jun 2006 04:45:21 am    Post subject:

You say the 86 supports apps, but it doesn't have flash archive right?

You could also note that it has a lot more RAM.
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Ray Kremer


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Posted: 07 Jun 2006 12:49:15 pm    Post subject:

leofox wrote:
You say the 86 supports apps, but it doesn't have flash archive right?

You could also note that it has a lot more RAM.
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No, it doesn't have Flash. TI made two "applications" for it, the finanical package and the advanced statistics package. They reside in RAM and integrate themselves into the (IIRC) MATH menu.

More RAM wasn't the only benefit, several things that were first introduced on the 82 and 83 made their way onto the 86.
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Posted: 07 Jun 2006 01:06:36 pm    Post subject:

Thanks again for the info. I've been neglecting this lately.

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Newbie


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Posted: 11 Jun 2006 10:51:34 pm    Post subject:

My 83+SE did not come with a silver link but a black one.
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DigiTan
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Posted: 11 Jun 2006 11:09:46 pm    Post subject:

TI-82
Pros:
+ Cheap (MSRP: $77)
+ Wide availability
+ 28.8KB RAM
+ Wide documentation
Cons:
- Inactive development community
- No Flash ROM (meaning no archive space, not much memory)
- No USB port (meaning you have to use the I/O cables)
- Slower than the late models
- Very limited grayscale
- Usually overlooked
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SilverCalcKnight
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 01:05:35 am    Post subject:

Thanks, DigiTan. Looks like this is finished. Thanks to all who helped make this list great.

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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 07:33:50 am    Post subject:

Well, there's still the TI-73 Explorer, and the relatively unknown TI-92 II, which no one really cares about, but meh. It looks great!
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SilverCalcKnight
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 10:18:33 am    Post subject:

TI-92 II=TI-92
Just a hardware change.

TI-73 is there, I think.

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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 10:41:18 am    Post subject:

TI-108 = TI-89 Titanium, just a hardware change.

73 is there, 73 Explorer is not. Of course, no one would want to buy one of those instead of an 83+.
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DarkerLine
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 11:01:38 am    Post subject:

I'm pretty sure the 73 and 73 Explorer are essentially the same. They have the same manual. On the cover, it says:
Quote:
In this guidebook, TI-73 refers to both the TI-73 and TI-73 Explorer. All functions, instructions, and examples in this guidebook work identically for both the TI-73 and the TI-73 Explorer.
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SilverCalcKnight
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 01:27:36 pm    Post subject:

IAmACalculator wrote:
TI-108 = TI-89 Titanium, just a hardware change.
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Point proven, IAmACalculator. I'll add it.

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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 01:50:50 pm    Post subject:

Now that I think about it though, it doesn't really matter. It's a calc buying guide, and you'd be hard pressed to find one of those.
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magus57


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Posted: 12 Jun 2006 03:46:16 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
A suite of TI-86 features is being created for the TI-83 Plus and TI-89 in the form of free Apps, including:
• Polynomial Root Finder
• Simultaneous Equations Solver
• Differential Equation Graphing (built into the TI-89)
• Constants and Conversions (built into the TI-89)


(From TI website)

Basically, the TI-86 has almost been rendered absolete. But I'm not complaining, I have one myself, along with a TI-84+SE, and I'm also adding a TI-89T to my calculator family.
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Posted: 12 Dec 2006 12:01:46 am    Post subject:

Actually...
The TI-83 has built in support for asm. 85 has hacked asm. The 73 is the exact same as the 73 Explorer, and has 8 app spaces. Whatever the heck about "limited grayscale" on the 82 is just out of place and confusing. And the 82, 83, 83+, 85, and 86 all have the same processor, so speeds shouldn't be much different except that the algorithm in the ROM may be faster. I don't know, but I'm almost certain that the 82 has hacked asm. I think that the 82 thru 84 or even the 81 thru 84 have the same general style of interface, just with new features as the number increases. Also, you should make a distinction between Flash and RAM among the 83+/84+ line, adding that all the calcs in the 83+/84+ line have the same amount of usable RAM, just the archive is different. The 83+ SE and 84+ SE have 94 app spaces. The 84+ has 30 spaces. The 83+ has 10. Thus, the 83+ SE has 9.4, not 10, times the archive of the 83+.
A source:
http://education.ti.com/educationportal/si...e/download.html
You may want to add this url to the guide:
http://www.datamath.org/
After going to that site, click Album, then Graphing/Symbolic Calculators.
Also, Wikipedia has some good articles.


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DigiTan
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Posted: 12 Dec 2006 12:35:11 am    Post subject:

The TI-82 display isn't mapped to RAM meaning it has to be updated using a slower port-based method (either the built-in ROM call or the slightly-faster routine included in the shell). Any full-screen grayscale will flicker unless you're doing a still image--and even then, it's still noticeable. Limited grayscale.
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AlienCC
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Posted: 12 Dec 2006 12:44:57 am    Post subject:

The Ti-85 and Ti-86 are still superior to the Ti-82/3x/4x line in almost every way. Especially if you like fluid graphics for your gaming pleasure.

Don't forget to respect the Ti-85, without it the other models surely wouldn't have asm included as they now do. After all it started this whole community of asm calc programmers in the first place.

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