Ti As Joystick
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 16 May 2004 10:50:25 am    Post subject:
Then write it.
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X1011
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Posted: 16 May 2004 11:16:44 am    Post subject:
I was planning to when I learned asm, but every time I actually got a program to compile, it wouldn't show up in ion, so i kinda gave up for awhile.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 16 May 2004 11:17:30 am    Post subject:
Don't use ION.
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Posted: 16 May 2004 11:20:56 am    Post subject:
You have to put in the ion header for it to show up in ion. Asm(prgmNAME is good enough for me.
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Robot87


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Posted: 16 May 2004 03:18:35 pm    Post subject:
Arcane Wizard wrote:
I think if you make a calc program that will send data just like a regular joystick you can just use a normal joystick driver on the pc.

Run a program on the calc to handle the input and send it through the cable correctly, to a com port, and then the joystick driver should do the rest.

You might even be able to add a switch in the program to switch between com mouse, com keyboard, or com joystick.

Okay, I need to know the schematic for a basic joystick, how to send the data to a driver, and what driver to use. I guess the drivers to use is MMstick or vjoyd.vxd. Any help, please?
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Posted: 16 May 2004 03:43:11 pm    Post subject:
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Okay, I need to know the schematic for a basic joystick, how to send the data to a driver, and what driver to use.

I don't know if this is the type of joystick you have in mind, but I'm working a short treatise here on how to communicate with Playstation joysticks using a basic microcontroller.

Basically, their controllers use a pair of potentitometers to record the stick position. The current from those resistors goes through an analog->digital converter so you can read the X-Y position data as a pair of 8-bit values (0x00 = left or up, 0xFF = right or down). As of this year, it works with all types of PSone controllers including the mouse. Anyway I'll have more details posted once I finish writing it this week. There are already a few gaming sites that explain how to convert other game controllers for new uses.
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Robot87


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Posted: 16 May 2004 08:00:05 pm    Post subject:
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I don't know if this is the type of joystick you have in mind, but I'm working a short treatise here on how to communicate with Playstation joysticks using a basic microcontroller


Umm....nice Website. Like the game. can I get Poquemon grey, please? Anyway, Can't find it.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 17 May 2004 10:23:00 am    Post subject:
Would it be possible to make a digital -> analog converter with just several diodes of different pass through values?
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Posted: 17 May 2004 04:08:39 pm    Post subject:
Arcane Wizard wrote:
Don't use ION.

MirageOS doesn't work with VTI

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You have to put in the ion header for it to show up in ion.

I did that, I think. I'm gonna try it again though.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 17 May 2004 04:17:03 pm    Post subject:
Ever heard of nostub? It's great.
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Posted: 17 May 2004 04:23:54 pm    Post subject:
But you either miss out on all those cool routines or have to re-enter them in.
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 17 May 2004 04:36:00 pm    Post subject:
But ION can be compiled for 83 too if you do it right! Wink
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Posted: 17 May 2004 07:47:35 pm    Post subject:
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Would it be possible to make a digital -> analog converter with just several diodes of different pass through values?

It could work with row of zener diodes. Most commercial zeners only have a 0.1 volt level of precision though, and the linearity isn't perfect. I'm guessing the controllers use the equivalent of a ADC0801 chip, which has something like a (+/-)1/4LSB error. Right now I'm overhauling the entire website, so might be another day till it's posted.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 18 May 2004 02:26:02 am    Post subject:
Sir Robin wrote:
But you either miss out on all those cool routines or have to re-enter them in.

WHat cool routines? Confused
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Keith Pierce


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Posted: 18 May 2004 07:12:36 am    Post subject:
If everyone here is talking about frogger, there is one already. Check Void Productions. They made one!
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Posted: 18 May 2004 03:05:55 pm    Post subject:
Arcane Wizard wrote:
Sir Robin wrote:
But you either miss out on all those cool routines or have to re-enter them in.

WHat cool routines? Confused

The ion routines. fastcopy, the sprite routines, multhl (or is that mirage?), etc. there's a list somewhere.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 18 May 2004 03:25:44 pm    Post subject:
And you can only do that with one of them custom shells?
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Posted: 18 May 2004 04:01:29 pm    Post subject:
You obviously can't do that nostub.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 18 May 2004 04:05:24 pm    Post subject:
But aren't the shells nostub?
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sgm


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Posted: 18 May 2004 04:05:33 pm    Post subject:
You can, but not without increasing the binary by ohmigosh 100 bytes.
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