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Bryan Thomas
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Posted: 08 May 2004 08:33:46 pm    Post subject:

OK guys, well first off I am so happy,

I successfully made a high score routine for contra that will have a list of the 6 highest scores and allow you to input you name into the list. Howver, I realized that It would be a real challenge using only one string to make the person input there name. So I did this big equation using 2 strings to allow the persons inputted name, to be inplemented into the right spot in Str9, When it worked, I was flipping out.

But anyway now for the part where I need your input...

I have had a couple of complaints about the Contra controls. People say that its to hard to play with the controls set up the way they are, so I want to know if you think I should change the controls and if so tell me what you think they should be.

Give me the info like this:

(current controls)
2nd=Shoot
Alpha=Change directions
Arrow Keys=Move
UP arrow=Jump
MATH=pause

Thanks
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Darth Android
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Posted: 09 May 2004 02:52:52 am    Post subject:

NO! they are perfect. i mean, how would you do it other wise? shoot with teh up arrow?
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 09 May 2004 06:32:44 am    Post subject:

Arrow keys -> move
>> up -> jump/climb up
>> down -> crouch/climb down
>> left -> go left
>> right -> go right
2nd -> shoot
mode -> pause

Are there any other actions?
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X1011
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Posted: 09 May 2004 09:50:43 am    Post subject:

Look 2 posts up.
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Jedd
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Posted: 09 May 2004 10:08:21 am    Post subject:

As is. They are perfect that way.

-J
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 09 May 2004 10:18:39 am    Post subject:

What are the current controls and why does everybody seem to know them?
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Bryan Thomas
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Posted: 09 May 2004 11:08:12 am    Post subject:

The current controls are told in the first post made...
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DarkerLine
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Posted: 09 May 2004 11:26:08 am    Post subject:

The only problem that I see is that people are used to playing mario where 2nd=jump. However you would need to detect two simultaneous key presses which can't be done in Basic.

Also, what does alpha=change directions do?
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Jedd
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Posted: 09 May 2004 11:29:26 am    Post subject:

Alpha makes you face the other way. Right->Left or Left->Right. That way you can shoot the other way without leaving your current position.

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leofox
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:19:41 pm    Post subject:

Arrow keys -> move
>> up -> climb up
>> down -> crouch/climb down
>> left -> go left
>> right -> go right
2nd -> jump
alpha -> shoot
mode -> pause
del -> change direction

practically the same as in Mario, but with some more controls
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:38:25 pm    Post subject:

Can't you use the movement keys to change direction?
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:43:01 pm    Post subject:

I think it's to shoot backward while moving forward.

And how exactly are you going to detect a [2nd]+ keypress that means "jump left"? or does that mean you automatically jump in the direction you're facing as far as you can?
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leofox
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:46:43 pm    Post subject:

i think the change direction thing is so you can shoot at the monster approaching you in this type of level:

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  you-->  _|
     pit |

monsters coming from the left, you want to shoot them without falling in the pit.


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DarkerLine
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:48:50 pm    Post subject:

Yes, that situation is really going to occur often just so Bryan can find use for his cool new feature.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:55:13 pm    Post subject:

Directional keys:
Left: If facing left, move left. If facing right, change heading.
Right: If facing right, move right. If facing left, change heading.

Also, how are you going to fire at a monster coming at you, while moving? Like you said, Basic can only handle one key press so moving and fireing at the same time won't work.
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Posted: 09 May 2004 12:57:20 pm    Post subject:

You could alternate keypresses. But I think your way is good enough.
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leofox
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Posted: 09 May 2004 01:06:13 pm    Post subject:

Gameboy games mostly use "tag the directional pad" for changing direction, but on a 83+, it's easier to use a key like alpha

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Posted: 09 May 2004 01:07:34 pm    Post subject:

Easier for whom? I think the direction keys are perfect for changing direction, wouldn't you?
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Posted: 09 May 2004 01:09:08 pm    Post subject:

It also makes sense because the keys are named after famous directions you can go, like "up" and "left".
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Posted: 09 May 2004 01:11:02 pm    Post subject:

Well, it's hard to "go up" sometimes, unless there's a ladder.
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