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robertak


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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 08:51:34 pm    Post subject:
Does anyone know how to put your program in the APPS sections of the calculator(ie. ti-83+ the blue button)? Thank you.
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Justin W.
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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 08:52:34 pm    Post subject:
You can't put programs in the applications menu, only applications will reside there.
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robertak


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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 08:53:27 pm    Post subject:
Well, how can i make my program an application? Wacko Neutral
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Justin W.
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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 08:56:08 pm    Post subject:
If you already know assembly you can get development tools and sign your own application.
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robertak


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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 09:03:31 pm    Post subject:
Honestly, I'm not very good in asm Neutral but what does sign my own application mean?!?
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Justin W.
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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 09:05:48 pm    Post subject:
Applications are ROM based programs. They take up a minimum of 16384 bytes of Flash ROM. They cannot have self-modifying code. An application is compiled into hex and 'signed' with a key that identifies it as an application to the calc.
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robertak


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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 09:12:05 pm    Post subject:
Do you know what the key looks like?
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Justin W.
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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 09:15:36 pm    Post subject:
The key is a data file that is added onto the application during the signing process.
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robertak


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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 09:20:56 pm    Post subject:
I don't understand everything very well, but thanks, I got the main point! Very Happy
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Darth Android
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Posted: 16 Feb 2004 10:26:08 pm    Post subject:
go find the ti 83+ flash debugger. it has the signing tools
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Jeremiah Walgren
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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 12:20:23 pm    Post subject:
You might want to research a little on programming as well.
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Darth Android
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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 12:44:57 pm    Post subject:
yeah, you cant just copy and paste nostub to an app because an ap runs from archive and anything used by rom calls that arent passed through registers have to be copied to ram (the data for _Puts or _VPuts, for example)
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Ray Kremer


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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 02:35:16 pm    Post subject:
You people are getting all technical on the poor guy.

This is just the old fallacy that the APPS button is the equivalent to the Windows Start menu and if it's not in APPS you can't do anything with it. I blame TI, who often enough markets the calculator as a platform for Flash Apps when the Flash Apps are really just extra stuff added onto what is already a fully featured system.

Nor does it help that anywhere else, the words "program" and "application" are synonymous.

Basic programs are found in the PRGM menu and are run from the PRGM menu. These have been around since before Flash ROM. (Note that the original 83 has a PRGM button but not an APPS button.)

Assembly programs use the same file type as basic program, and thus are also found in the PRGM menu. Most need to be run via a shell. These have also been around since before Flash ROM.

Flash Applications are a different file type, can only reside in the Flash ROM, and are run from the APPS menu.

To sum up, if something's not in the APPS menu, it's not supposed to be, but you can still use it.
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Jeremiah Walgren
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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 02:46:54 pm    Post subject:
Amazing how much it takes to show why you state something. All that for the final statement.

I still think one should read up on programming for apps before actually trying to make one though.
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robertak


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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 05:04:17 pm    Post subject:
ok, thanks for your help!
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Darth Android
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Posted: 17 Feb 2004 07:54:42 pm    Post subject:
sorry ! Very Happy glad to help
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robertak


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Posted: 18 Feb 2004 07:04:53 pm    Post subject:
i downloaded the source of an application and checked the top of the file where you see the application signatures and the headers. pretty cool. Very Happy
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