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62 52 53 53
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Posted: 30 Aug 2003 03:34:36 pm    Post subject:
wait, I'm confused. Weren't you just asking how we'd find out how the silent link works?
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Posted: 31 Aug 2003 02:56:22 am    Post subject:
No, I know how the silent linking routines work, and I have documentation.
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Posted: 09 Sep 2003 05:18:23 pm    Post subject:
will there need to be a header (kinda like mirageos's :"name) for basic programs to be detected?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2003 10:05:48 pm    Post subject:
no, it detects EVERYTHING Smile
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Posted: 10 Sep 2003 01:56:30 pm    Post subject:
Yeah it detects everything.

However, if a header does exist, the header info will be displayed in the NimbusOS statas bar.

In the future, we might make an option to detect all basic, header basic, or no basic.

As far as asm goes, that is detected too.
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Posted: 11 Sep 2003 05:05:18 pm    Post subject:
will there be some way to hide some programs like a subprogram or something.mabye something using a header?
that way when transfering a basic program or something to another calculator the other person won't delete the sub program thinking it does not work and screw up the base program.

so nimbus would just say something like
detect everything but things that start with 0->N
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Posted: 11 Sep 2003 05:24:25 pm    Post subject:
Yeah, we can do that in the future, but it won't be done by christmas.
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Posted: 19 Sep 2003 11:16:43 am    Post subject:
Is there a current NimbusOS Information page, I have searched over unitedti.org, and couldn't find anything about Nimbus, But I really can't wait to try it out, and am so sick of basic progs crashing in MirageOS on my Ti-83 + SE.

EDIT:Nvm, I just downloaded the Beta from Cirrus. So Far it's great, the first things to work on that would make it more complete than any would be:Hiding Programs from the Prgm key, I like the Battery Idea, and having it in Application form. This is great, and I hope it is finished soon.

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Posted: 19 Sep 2003 06:03:04 pm    Post subject:
the cirrus one is beta 4, and the latest is an app almost done. you understand this, yes?
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Posted: 19 Sep 2003 06:07:40 pm    Post subject:
NextPerception wrote:
will there be some way to hide some programs like a subprogram or something.mabye something using a header?
that way when transfering a basic program or something to another calculator the other person won't delete the sub program thinking it does not work and screw up the base program.

so nimbus would just say something like
detect everything but things that start with 0->N

or how about ":hide"
so that the code looks like this:
::hide
:Disp "This prgm is hidden by Nimbus"
:Pause
:Disp "this prgm is also poorly programmed"
:Pause
:For(A,1,100)
:Disp "HI!"
:End

and it would be hidden by nimbus
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 02:31:51 am    Post subject:
That sounds like a very good idea, Darth.

We shall do this in App2, and make an asm equiv too.

e.g.

usermem-2
$BB,$6D

ret
.db 0
.db 1

0 for standard
1 for hidden or something like that
2 for NimbusOS i.e. a bult in fuction that acts as an api or something.

The next .db would be a version number, so for a library or something. I don't know

We will figure out a NimbusOS header eventually.
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 12:08:53 pm    Post subject:
i think the icons should be 16x16, not 15x15 cause 16 is a more reasonable number, and it makes more sense Very Happy
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 12:16:42 pm    Post subject:
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i think the icons should be 16x16, not 15x15 cause 16 is a more reasonable number, and it makes more sense 


yes, think about it... the NES was 16bits and it was (in my opinion) the most revolutionary high-tech peice of equipment ever. everyone had one at one point or anouther. this shows us that 16 is either a very lucky number or is just very easy to use Wink
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 12:23:49 pm    Post subject:
yes, and it is a multiple of 8, which Assembly revolves around Smile
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 03:06:56 pm    Post subject:
When I try the Beta 4 version, I thought that there should be a folder system, that can nest folders, to be oranized, because Idk if it's just me, or all Ti calc people, but I love oranization. Laughing
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Posted: 20 Sep 2003 06:41:27 pm    Post subject:
organization? HA! im simply proud of the fact that i know where everything is and other people have to search to find it, its like a anti-theft system.
organized people also know where everything is, but it easy for others to find too.
so you have to ask yourself a question, "do i be organized, or unorganized and have anti-theft?"
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Posted: 21 Sep 2003 05:44:21 am    Post subject:
Nimbus uses 16 by 16 sprites.

There will be no folders, and if you did want to nest folders, you would need to keep an appvar to keep track of what programs are in which folders.

If you do not use folders, you can use an unused byte of the symtable to keep track of up to 256 folder. Folder 0 to 255!
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Posted: 30 Sep 2003 01:25:38 pm    Post subject:
Darth Android wrote:
NextPerception wrote:
will there be some way to hide some programs like a subprogram or something.mabye something using a header?
that way when transfering a basic program or something to another calculator the other person won't delete the sub program thinking it does not work and screw up the base program.

so nimbus would just say something like
detect everything but things that start with 0->N

or how about ":hide"
so that the code looks like this:
::hide
:Disp "This prgm is hidden by Nimbus"
:Pause
:Disp "this prgm is also poorly programmed"
:Pause
:For(A,1,100)
:Disp "HI!"
:End

and it would be hidden by nimbus

that looks like what mirage os does to detect the program.
with the
::
part
that always screws up my calculator when i try to archive or unarchive that program.
also this would make any program that is like that apear in mirage os and if it was intended as a protected (locked) program they could simply unlock then edit it since mirage has the unlock feature.

it could be something like just a blank line as the first line in the program.

Code:
:
:Disp "This prgm is hidden by Nimbus"
:Pause
:Disp "this prgm is also poorly programmed"
:Pause
:For(A,1,100)
:Disp "HI!"
:End
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62 52 53 53
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Posted: 30 Sep 2003 02:41:23 pm    Post subject:
blank lines would be too easy to accidentally leave
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NextPerception


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Posted: 30 Sep 2003 08:48:22 pm    Post subject:
well then what about like storing a strange number like 214 to a certain variable like n (for nimbus) on the first line of the program

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