tifreak8x wrote:
We could be sending people up there, like we did 50 years ago, but nooooo. It's too much money...
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/12/7728140-fifty-new-alien-worlds-revealed?GT1=43001
I sadly haven't had time to read much of this article, I caught that some European astronomers have found 50 possible Class M planets.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44517102/ns/technology_and_science-space/
And NASA's new rocket idea is unveiled with the supposed blessing of the Senate. I guess we shall see.
6 years for the first unmanned test flight, and manned within 12.
tifreak8x wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44517102/ns/technology_and_science-space/
And NASA's new rocket idea is unveiled with the supposed blessing of the Senate. I guess we shall see.
6 years for the first unmanned test flight, and manned within 12.
Looks like a load of crap. I'm betting on SpaceX's Falcon Heavy, and whatever Bigelow has up its sleeve at this point.
elfprince13 wrote:
tifreak8x wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44517102/ns/technology_and_science-space/
And NASA's new rocket idea is unveiled with the supposed blessing of the Senate. I guess we shall see.
6 years for the first unmanned test flight, and manned within 12.
Looks like a load of crap. I'm betting on SpaceX's Falcon Heavy, and whatever Bigelow has up its sleeve at this point.
You've got to be kidding me. NASA is the AUTHORITY on spaceflight. They were putting people on the MOON before you were a glint in your father's eye, and you're betting on the "private sector" to beat them to Mars?
You do realize that private sector spaceflight can only move forward when rich people make money? NASA can move forward regardless of "profitability" as long as Congress lets them. The problem is that a lot of our congress nowadays has been filled with rich people making money.
DShiznit wrote:
You've got to be kidding me. NASA is the AUTHORITY on spaceflight. They were putting people on the MOON before you were a glint in your father's eye, and you're betting on the "private sector" to beat them to Mars?
Yes. Or if not to Mars, to the asteroids and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
DShiznit wrote:
You do realize that private sector spaceflight can only move forward when people make money?
This is true of everything in the private sector.
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NASA can move forward regardless of "profitability" as long as Congress lets them. The problem is that a lot of our congress nowadays has been filled with rich people making money.
SpaceX's Falcon Heavy already tops every rocket the world has ever produced (in lift capacity) except for the Saturn V, and is set to take over some of the supply runs to the ISS if this November's missions go well.
Bigelow Aerospace is in the process of testing the modules needed for private sector space stations, and, last I heard, was also in consideration to provide modules for the ISS. They already have a slot reserved in SpaceX's launch manifests for 2014, and have contracts with at least 7 different countries to utilize the facilities in the privately owned station they'll be launching then (as well as serious chatter about a space hotel, since Robert Bigelow is a hotelier by trade). They also have publicly announced ambitions for commercial Martian, Lunar, and Lagrange L1 stations.
NASA is a barrel of pork for congressional districts with lots of people working for Boeing, Lockheed, et. al. That is why the new "shuttle replacement" is being built with parts scavenged from earlier programs. It isn't a step forwards, it is a step backwards to maintain existing jobs and assembly lines and won't even beat SpaceX's or Bigelow's projected schedule to LEO. Manned missions to the moon and Lagrange L1 aren't even on the table at this point, let alone Mars.
So yeah, I'm betting on the private sector.
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They found an exo-planet orbiting BOTH stars in a binary system. Previously they had only been found to orbit a single star in a binary system. This calls to mind Tatooine, but unfortunately it is a gas giant. http://news.discovery.com/space/kepler-16b-exoplanet-two-stars-tatooine-110915.html
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/14/7767550-real-life-star-wars-planet-seen?GT1=43001
Essentially the same article from a different person :p
Pretty awesome that this was found. Where's Scotty with our warp drive when we need him?
elfprince13 wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
You've got to be kidding me. NASA is the AUTHORITY on spaceflight. They were putting people on the MOON before you were a glint in your father's eye, and you're betting on the "private sector" to beat them to Mars?
Yes. Or if not to Mars, to the asteroids and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
KermMartian wrote:
elfprince13 wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
You've got to be kidding me. NASA is the AUTHORITY on spaceflight. They were putting people on the MOON before you were a glint in your father's eye, and you're betting on the "private sector" to beat them to Mars?
Yes. Or if not to Mars, to the asteroids and the moons of Jupiter and Saturn.
How about THE ENTIRE LATTER HALF OF THE F**KING 20TH CENTURY? EVERY technological advancement made between 1959 and now has been a direct result of government-funded NASA research. Calculators, computers, digital watches, temper-medic mattresses, the list goes on and on. The private sector gave us none of these things on it's own. They were given to us by NASA. I'm surprised a group of self-proclaimed technology enthusiasts would not know that.
DShiznit wrote:
They were given to us by NASA.
Also, Ma Bell.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44553677/ns/technology_and_science-space/
An article that is discussing the potential for finding stars that are pre-super nova.
http://thebubble.msn.com/#/video/?id=340f279e-7c2e-482c-ada1-5d6ff35658c7
This is a video of the space station orbiting Earth and taping us below. Quite intriguing to see all the lightning storms and all the glowing from different cities.
The lightning storms were really impressive.
tifreak8x wrote:
http://thebubble.msn.com/#/video/?id=340f279e-7c2e-482c-ada1-5d6ff35658c7
This is a video of the space station orbiting Earth and taping us below. Quite intriguing to see all the lightning storms and all the glowing from different cities.
Goddamn our planet looks like crap. It's like a dirty, dystopian garbage world where everything goes to die...
Edit by Merth: Didn't I tell you before that if I have to edit any more of your posts for bypassing the filter that I would just start deleting them? If I didn't let this be me saying that. If I did, well, I guess I'm a pushover.
DShiznit wrote:
tifreak8x wrote:
http://thebubble.msn.com/#/video/?id=340f279e-7c2e-482c-ada1-5d6ff35658c7
This is a video of the space station orbiting Earth and taping us below. Quite intriguing to see all the lightning storms and all the glowing from different cities.
Goddamn our planet looks like crap. It's like a dirty, dystopian garbage world where everything goes to die...
If that whole thing were on HD Video - rather than a time lapse -, I'd buy that in a heartbeat as an ambient video for a social party.
comicIDIOT wrote:
DShiznit wrote:
tifreak8x wrote:
http://thebubble.msn.com/#/video/?id=340f279e-7c2e-482c-ada1-5d6ff35658c7
This is a video of the space station orbiting Earth and taping us below. Quite intriguing to see all the lightning storms and all the glowing from different cities.
a our planet looks like crap. It's like a dirty, dystopian garbage world where everything goes to die...
If that whole thing were on HD Video - rather than a time lapse -, I'd buy that in a heartbeat as an ambient video for a social party.
Meh, difference of opinion I guess. To me it looks like everything is on fire and the planet is tearing itself apart.
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/21/7879772-satellites-doom-set-for-friday
Seems a bus sized satellite is going to be entering the atmosphere on Friday. Oh so much fun, I wonder what all the debris will hit! and who covers the cost of such damage.
If the video is accurate, it looks like it'll land in the ocean. However the field of uncertainty seems to be 6000 miles, so, it's got a slim chance of hitting land.
tifreak8x wrote:
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/21/7879772-satellites-doom-set-for-friday
Seems a bus sized satellite is going to be entering the atmosphere on Friday. Oh so much fun, I wonder what all the debris will hit! and who covers the cost of such damage.
I think you're overestimating the size it will be after going through atmospheric entry. It might hit with a lot of force, but if it's the size of a pebble it probably won't do much.
DShiznit wrote:
tifreak8x wrote:
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/09/21/7879772-satellites-doom-set-for-friday
Seems a bus sized satellite is going to be entering the atmosphere on Friday. Oh so much fun, I wonder what all the debris will hit! and who covers the cost of such damage.
I think you're overestimating the size it will be after going through atmospheric entry. It might hit with a lot of force, but if it's the size of a pebble it probably won't do much.
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The US space agency says the risk to life from the Upper Atmosphere Research Satellite (UARS) is 1 in 3,200
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The 1 in 3,200 risk to public safety is higher than the 1 in 10,000 limit that Nasa aims for.
It is also expected to scatter over a 250 mile-long strip, so that's a lot of pebbles.
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