well as this system is being started and as i want that people knwo a litle more what is comin out soon here is one of the most fresh and good projects... The Gentoo with FreeBSD i haven't yet tested it myself but friens of mine say that is a good and promissing project...
more info on
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/fbsd/
so, what is the advantage to running FreeBSD vs Linux?
its not the advantadge of running FreeBSD vs Linux, is more the part that Gentoo will implement the BSD working way like ports etc... you can find info in here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo/FreeBSD
rivereye wrote:
so, what is the advantage to running FreeBSD vs Linux?
Letsee, fewer drivers, less support, less documentation, less user base.... hrm... I'm gonna say there are none 
(unless you are running a server farm, as FreeBSD is a bit more secure and a bit faster in server usage, from what I have seen)
And I have used FreeBSD rayden.
fewer drivers are you crazy why the hell linux have stealed the bktr or any other's that have been made for FreeBSD and why the hell linux is using KDE it have been made for 'BSD' at the time... well not to go deaper but an article comparing the systems at IBM can explain the main advantages of BSD...
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-freebsd/
I *could* be mistaken, but I'm pretty darn sure that KDE is not a driver.....
That, and its programmed for X+Posix-compatible, not FreeBSD specifically (as it couldn't care less which kernel its running under - case in point, running it in Cygwin under windows)
i know that KDE is not a driver i was only talking about things that have been created for FreeBsd\BSD and then ported to linux like KDE was.
KDE was built at the time for BSD not FreeBsd...
rayden wrote:
KDE was built at the time for BSD not FreeBsd...
Actually, no, it wasn't. It was built for ALL UNIX systems (which includes, but is not limited to, BSD and Linux). Maybe you need to brush up on your history (btw, here is the official project announcement according to KDE's site: http://kde.org/documentation/posting.txt )
I did a search in that announcement for BSD - guess how many times it was mentioned? 0. Let me say that again, ZERO MENTIONS OF BSD.
Here is the first paragraph:
Quote:
Unix popularity grows thanks to the free variants, mostly Linux. But still a
consistant, nice looking free desktop-environment is missing. There are
several nice either free or low-priced applications available, so that
Linux/X11 would almost fit everybody needs if we could offer a real GUI.
Linux is mentioned twice, Unix (which is all variants) once, and BSD, zero times. KDE WAS NOT DEVELOPED SPECIFICALLY FOR BSD IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. IT WAS DEVELOPED FOR ALL UNIX AND UNIX-BASED KERNELS
Kllrnohj wrote:
rivereye wrote:
so, what is the advantage to running FreeBSD vs Linux?
Letsee, fewer drivers, less support, less documentation, less user base.... hrm... I'm gonna say there are none (unless you are running a server farm, as FreeBSD is a bit more secure and a bit faster in server usage, from what I have seen)
And I have used FreeBSD rayden.
actually, interestingly, for laptops it can be better, as there are more native Wi-Fi drivers :p
elfprince13 wrote:
actually, interestingly, for laptops it can be better, as there are more native Wi-Fi drivers :p
Care to post a source for that? I have yet to see nearly as many FreeBSD drivers as Linux drivers - including for things like WiFi. RealTek (which makes a bunch of wifi chipsets) only has drivers for linux (2.6 and 2.4 kernels), mac, and (of course) windows - none for FreeBSD.
Actually, if you could just find me a couple of examples of manufacturers only having BSD drivers and not linux one's on their site, that would be enough 
yay forget that my mistake i was confused by other software....
Kllrnohj wrote:
elfprince13 wrote:
actually, interestingly, for laptops it can be better, as there are more native Wi-Fi drivers :p
Care to post a source for that? I have yet to see nearly as many FreeBSD drivers as Linux drivers - including for things like WiFi. RealTek (which makes a bunch of wifi chipsets) only has drivers for linux (2.6 and 2.4 kernels), mac, and (of course) windows - none for FreeBSD.
Actually, if you could just find me a couple of examples of manufacturers only having BSD drivers and not linux one's on their site, that would be enough
not manufacturer drivers, ones that have been written from scratch (yes like many native linux drivers)
Same still applies, find me some examples
true, I see nothing compelling to switch out of my Ubuntu box to a BSD system. Come up with that, and I might consider it.
but one point is true linux comes from BSD...
http://www.levenez.com/unix/history.html#15
rayden wrote:
Again, no, Linux came from Minix which came from Unix - at least, according to that chart
@Elf: that link doesn't tell me anything. Linux has drivers built into the kernel, too 
rayden wrote:
100% incorrect, according to your link:
UNICS (1974)
Unix v7 (Jan 1979)
Minix (1985)
Minix 1.0 (1987)
Linux 0.01 (Aug. 1, 1991)
look closer there's then BSD pointinng to linux....
rayden wrote:
look closer there's then BSD pointinng to linux....
which, of course, means nothing. You said linux comes from BSD, not that it, at some time, got some code (unknown influence and size from this chart, hence the vague wording) from BSD. If you continue looking at the graph, you see lines coming and going from linux just as you do from BSD. Besides, if you follow the graph, you'll see that linux has split from itself several times, and that the current linux (the 2.6.xx) has but one line pointing to it from its initial creation, and that is from "Plan 9" (which has a different linux arrow pointing to it earlier in the timeline)
But this entire discussion of which came from what is pointless, as it has no reflection whatsoever on the quality, speed, and stability of the code and final product. It also doesn't say how much code was received from what, or how much of it is still being used. The chart just shows one thing, as far as I'm concerned, and that is that BSD, linux, et al. benifited greatly from OSS code sharing
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