I need specific chars on the TI-84+ CE, but I need help. - Cemetech | Forum

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

I need specific chars on the TI-84+ CE, but I need help.
10 Feb 2017 04:44:18 pm

I KNOW these are for the ti-83+, but is it possible to get these on the ti-84+ CE?
http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/83lgfont#E0
http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/83lgfont#F7
http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/83lgfont#F1
http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/83smfont#F7

If so, how do I get them?

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PT_
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Site Admin (Posts: 2088)

10 Feb 2017 04:57:20 pm

Nope, these are not accessible, as that are chars, and not tokens. A string consists of only tokens, so you can't put them into a string, and thus can't access them. You can try to find them in the list of tokens, for example this: http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/miscellaneous-tokens

Sam
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Power User (Posts: 441)

12 Feb 2017 08:45:32 am

These characters are all part of the OS's ASCII chart and can be located with the CE Library TextLib if you need them dearly. There is no way to get these characters with vanilla BASIC.

TheLastMillennial
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Official Cemetech Cake Manager (Posts: 1982)

14 Mar 2017 07:05:37 pm

*on behalf of just like the cakeiPhoenixjust like the cake
Lies!

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

14 Mar 2017 07:07:51 pm

TheLastMillennial wrote:

*on behalf of just like the cakeiPhoenixjust like the cake
Lies!

"Just like the cake"?

In defense of PT_, it's not lying if you didn't know it was possible.

TheLastMillennial
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Official Cemetech Cake Manager (Posts: 1982)

14 Mar 2017 07:10:29 pm

I don't know what you're talking about, my post obviously doesn't have those words in it Razz

And yes I agree _iPhoenix_, I'm sorry PT_.

Redston_1
Newbie (Posts: 31)

25 Mar 2017 05:07:28 pm

You can with the program editor on ti connect ce

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

25 Mar 2017 05:09:05 pm

Not those chars Smile

prgmTrouble
Advanced Newbie (Posts: 54)

25 Mar 2017 05:23:17 pm

To my knowledge, those characters are hard-coded to appear at certain instances only, some are actually cursor sprites. There are ways to display them outside those circumstances, but this would probably require assembly programming or some obscure glitch exploit. The Ti-Connect CE editor allows for some other characters such as Greek or special symbols that can be found on an English or Greek keyboard, though.

mr womp womp
Official Cemetech Cat Manager (Posts: 1779)

25 Mar 2017 05:25:55 pm

prgmTrouble wrote:

To my knowledge, those characters are hard-coded to appear at certain instances only, some are actually cursor sprites. There are ways to display them outside those circumstances, but this would probably require assembly programming or some obscure glitch exploit. The Ti-Connect CE editor allows for some other characters such as Greek or special symbols that can be found on an English or Greek keyboard, though.

Yeah, obviously, you can display them using asm, how do you think the calculator does it Wink

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

25 Mar 2017 05:26:22 pm

Yep. But some chars can be displayed with ASM (iirc), but not stored to a string.

But, there is the selected equals sign (appears when there is an equation in a graphing thingie, for lack of a better name) which gives some hope that is might be there, somewhere, hidden away. (just like the mathprintbox thingie)

PT_
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Site Admin (Posts: 2088)

25 Mar 2017 05:37:16 pm

Characters that appear somewhere in a token can be stored in a string using ASM, however, there are more characters, such as the inverted equal sign which can be only displayed using ASM but not stored to a string.

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

25 Mar 2017 05:41:04 pm

The inverted equals sign is able to be stored to a string.

I have proof, if needed Razz

mr womp womp
Official Cemetech Cat Manager (Posts: 1779)

25 Mar 2017 05:51:27 pm
Last edited by mr womp womp on 25 Mar 2017 06:52:22 pm; edited 1 time in total

_iPhoenix_ wrote:

Yep. But some chars can be displayed with ASM (iirc), but not stored to a string.

But, there is the selected equals sign (appears when there is an equation in a graphing thingie, for lack of a better name) which gives some hope that is might be there, somewhere, hidden away. (just like the mathprintbox thingie)

Yes, you can have them in strings. You can also get the "MathPrint Mixed Fraction Separator" (F5h) by going to the homescreen and pressing:
[alpha] [+] [math] [left] [2] [enter]

EDIT: Here is a piece of code that will display ascii chars (0-255 in Ans), which include all thses dumb characters.

CE

Code:

Asm84CEPrgmCD500F02CD700F02CDB80702C9

not CE

Code:

AsmPrgmEFD74AEFEF4AEF0445C9

iPhoenix
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hi (Posts: 1849)

25 Mar 2017 06:02:58 pm

Yeah, I noticed that. I am trying to get some of the other tokens in a string, and am scouring the interwebs for a token to string (ik Mateo did the opposite).

EDIT:
yay I found this! (look at 0x1E)

prgmTrouble
Advanced Newbie (Posts: 54)

26 Mar 2017 01:59:26 am

I was bored, so I made this in assembly. Will display every character in the OS.
Note: this is for the TI-84 + CSE, couldn't be bothered to make other versions. Look here for more info.

Code:

.nolist


#include "ti84pcse.inc"


.list


.db tExtTok,tAsm84CCmp


.org userMem


   .db $BB,$6D


   ld hl,$0000


   ld de,$0001


   ld a,1


   push af


   push de


   bcall(_maybe_ClrLCDFull)


   ld (curRow),hl


   ld (curCol),hl


   ld hl,row1


charLoop:


   bcall(_PutS)


   pop de


   add hl,de


   push de


   bcall(_NewLine)


   pop de


   pop af


   inc a   


   cp 11


   jr z,return


   push af


   push de


   jr charLoop


return:


   bcall(_GetKey)


   bcall(_maybe_ClrLCDFull)


   ret


row1:


   .db $01,$02,$03,$04,$05,$06,$07,$08,$09,$0A,$0B,$0C,$0D,$0E,$0F,$10,$11,$12,$13,$14,$15,$16,$17,$18,$19,$1A,0


row2:


   .db $1A,$1B,$1C,$1D,$1E,$1F,$20,$21,$22,$23,$24,$25,$26,$27,$28,$29,$2A,$2B,$2C,$2D,$2E,$2F,$30,$31,$32,$33,0


row3:


   .db $33,$34,$35,$36,$37,$38,$39,$3A,$3B,$3C,$3D,$3E,$3F,$40,$41,$42,$43,$44,$45,$46,$47,$48,$49,$4A,$4B,$4C,0


row4:


   .db $4C,$4D,$4E,$4F,$50,$51,$52,$53,$54,$55,$56,$57,$58,$59,$5A,$5B,$5C,$5D,$5E,$5F,$60,$61,$62,$63,$64,$65,$66,0


row5:


   .db $66,$67,$68,$69,$6A,$6B,$6C,$6D,$6E,$6F,$70,$71,$72,$73,$74,$75,$76,$77,$78,$79,$7A,$7B,$7C,$7D,$7E,$7F,0


row6:


   .db $7F,$80,$81,$82,$83,$84,$85,$86,$87,$88,$89,$8A,$8B,$8C,$8D,$8E,$8F,$90,$91,$92,$93,$94,$95,$96,$97,$98,0


row7:


   .db $98,$99,$9A,$9B,$9C,$9D,$9E,$9F,$A0,$A1,$A2,$A3,$A4,$A5,$A6,$A7,$A8,$A9,$AA,$AB,$AC,$AD,$AE,$AF,$B0,$B1,0


row8:


   .db $B1,$B2,$B3,$B4,$B5,$B6,$B7,$B8,$B9,$BA,$BB,$BC,$BD,$BE,$BF,$C0,$C1,$C2,$C3,$C4,$C5,$C6,$C7,$C8,$C9,$CA,0


row9:


   .db $CA,$CB,$CC,$CD,$CE,$CF,$D0,$D1,$D2,$D3,$D4,$D5,$D6,$D7,$D8,$D9,$DA,$DB,$DC,$DD,$DE,$DF,$E0,$E1,$E2,$E3,0


row10:


   .db $E3,$E4,$E5,$E6,$E7,$E8,$E9,$EA,$EB,$EC,$ED,$EE,$EF,$F0,$F1,$F2,$F3,$F4,$F5,$F6,$F7,0


   .end