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fendun


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 03:13:55 pm    Post subject:

TI-84 is fairly popular these days, but I can't seem to find the software to write programs for it. The emulators, and assembly compilers appear to be forTI83. Even TI's flash debugger is for TI-83. :confused:

Could I get a few links to software I could use to emulate TI-84 and to write code for it (both in TI-Basic and assembly).

So far I've found TI Program Editor(the one linked on this forum)...but nothing else so far. All help is appreciated. :biggrin:

This is my first post...so I'm not sure if this is the right forum.
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calcdude84se


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 03:42:03 pm    Post subject:

Welcome to UnitedTI! This forum should be fine.

For an emulator you can use TiEmu or WabbitEmu (you need a ROM, though). They should be easy enough to find (Google, ticalc.org, etc.)
If you want to write TI-Basic, TI Program Editor works fine for all 83+ series calculators. For assembly, you can use any z80 compiler (find on Google, ticalc.org, etc.), or you can use the SDK to write programs.
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hotdog1234


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 03:53:29 pm    Post subject:

The SDK provides the essential files, but not a compiler. There are several useful compilers out there...I find Zilog 3.68 (or is it 3.16?) the easiest, if not the fastest, compiler and developer's studio to use. SPASM is a popular fast one as well, but not as straight-forward.
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ztrumpet


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 04:04:15 pm    Post subject:

Welcome to United TI!
calcdude84se wrote:
you need a ROM, though. They should be easy enough to find (Google, ticalc.org, etc.)
I you want a rom from your own calculator, use this program:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/373/37341.html
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fendun


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 04:37:11 pm    Post subject:

calcdude84se wrote:
Welcome to UnitedTI! This forum should be fine.

For an emulator you can use TiEmu or WabbitEmu (you need a ROM, though). They should be easy enough to find (Google, ticalc.org, etc.)
If you want to write TI-Basic, TI Program Editor works fine for all 83+ series calculators. For assembly, you can use any z80 compiler (find on Google, ticalc.org, etc.), or you can use the SDK to write programs.


TiEmu doesn't support the 83,84 series. TilEm at http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilem/ does...but it was last updated in 06...and seems abondened (plus I'm not really familiar with how to use GTK).

Wabbitemu looks promising...I found it at http://www.revsoft.org/wabbitemu.zip
I going to try and get the rom using rom8x at http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/373/37341.html
I also read that you can download the latest operating system and rename it rom.os ...does that work?

Thanks again for all your replies...much appreciated.

I'm a bit confused as to how to send the file to the calculator...under TI Connect, I've selected Ti-Device explorer...but I don't see how to transfer a file from my computer to the calculator=(.

I did find the TI-84 manual at http://education.ti.com/educationportal/si..._os_84plus.html but it doesn't seem to be helping...

It turns out you right click and select "Send to TI device" under the context menu...shouldn't be archived...send to RAM.

I'll leave a tutorial for others:

Getting a ROM from your TI-84 Plus Silver Edition calculator

1) Download and install TI-Connect from http://education.ti.com/educationportal/si...ti_connect.html
1) Download Rom8x at http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/373/37341.html
2) Unzip "Rom8x.zip"
3) In the unzipped "Rom8x" folder, open the "Get" folder
4) In the "Get" folder you should among the files 2 called "G84PSE1.8XP" & "G84PSE2.8XP"
5) Right-click on the file called "G84PSE1.8XP" and select "Send to TI Device..." in the context menu
6) A window entitled "Send to TI Device" should popup. You should see in the upper right hand "Sending to TI-84 Plus Silver Edition". Under the destination column, it should say Ram. Select the "Send to Device" option.
...will continue tommorow.


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fendun


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 08:05:25 pm    Post subject:

So now I'm using the Wabbitemu with wabbitcode (assembly) from http://www.revsoft.org/projects/z80-assembly-ide .

How do I emulate an app on wabbitemu without creating a new rom?

Never mind...figured it out(open with wabbitemu)...I'll write a guide of some sorts so that others who have no prior programming experience can catch on.


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fendun


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 08:19:32 pm    Post subject:

Hot Dog wrote:
The SDK provides the essential files, but not a compiler. There are several useful compilers out there...I find Zilog 3.68 (or is it 3.16?) the easiest, if not the fastest, compiler and developer's studio to use. SPASM is a popular fast one as well, but not as straight-forward.


I looked at http://www.zilog.com/index.php?option=com_...d=40&Itemid but it says 3.68 is no longer supported...does Zilog Developer Studio II (ZDS II) also work?
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fendun


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 08:45:58 pm    Post subject:

I also found BBC basic at http://www.ticalc.org/pub/83plus/bbcbasic/

It seems to be fairly new...is it worth learning?
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hotdog1234


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Posted: 10 Oct 2009 09:05:50 pm    Post subject:

Quote:
I looked at http://www.zilog.com/index.php?option=com_...d=40&Itemid but it says 3.68 is no longer supported...does Zilog Developer Studio II (ZDS II) also work?


Probably not, and the instructions in the SDK tell you how to use 3.68 anyways. But you can still download Zilog 3.68 elsewhere on the internet. I'm living proof that it does a great job :)

Although, the only thing is, some symbols you have to use for hex and binary don't match that of other software...for instance, you have to use "h" for hex numbers rather than $
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Mapar007


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 03:55:29 am    Post subject:

For TI-Connect: you right-click the file you want to send in the normal Windows Explorer and you select "Send to TI device".
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fendun


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 08:19:36 am    Post subject:

Mapar007 wrote:
For TI-Connect: you right-click the file you want to send in the normal Windows Explorer and you select "Send to TI device".


Ye..took a while, but I figured it out...You would think they would have a way to do it outside the context menu...

I'll have a look at zilog 3.68....

I've dowloaed and installed zilog 3.68...is there a tutorial somewhere that shows how to set this up for the TI-84?


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Mapar007


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 09:26:41 am    Post subject:

There are people who like ZDS and people who don't. The IDE an sich is very good, the problem is that the syntax is different from other assemblers. (not very different, but annoying enough)

Personally, I prefer a good programming text editor (gedit/notepad++) combined with spasm and wabbitsign. (the newer versions of spasm can link too, so wabbitsign won't be needed)
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Lionel Debroux


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 09:47:56 am    Post subject:

Many people think TILem is abandoned, but it isn't Wink
It has seen a flurry of new development in the past few months.
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ztrumpet


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 10:53:53 am    Post subject:

Mapar007 wrote:
For TI-Connect: you right-click the file you want to send in the normal Windows Explorer and you select "Send to TI device".
I just drag and drop.
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fendun


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 11:49:23 am    Post subject:

Lionel Debroux wrote:
Many people think TILem is abandoned, but it isn't Wink
It has seen a flurry of new development in the past few months.


I got the .973 TILem to work...there really ought to be some tutorials on how to set this stuff up...I have a bit of prior programming experience with C, C++,Java, and Fortran...and I'm confused.

Is there a tutorial that shows how I should set up the Zilog 3.68 environment to work with the TI-84 Plus SE?

On a side note...TI-Freakwares Basic tutorial is pretty good...at http://tifreakware.net/tutorials/83p/b/tifw/index.htm


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fendun


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 02:39:55 pm    Post subject:

Where can I find a complete list of Basic functions and their description for the TI84?
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ztrumpet


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 03:08:24 pm    Post subject:

I suggest this site:
http://tibasicdev.wikidot.com/home
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calcdude84se


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 04:58:33 pm    Post subject:

ztrumpet wrote:
Welcome to United TI!
calcdude84se wrote:
you need a ROM, though. They should be easy enough to find (Google, ticalc.org, etc.)
I you want a rom from your own calculator, use this program:
http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/373/37341.html


You misquoted me there. I was referring to finding the named emulators on the internet, not ROM images (though you can). I myself used Rom8x to get my ROM.
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ztrumpet


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 05:11:32 pm    Post subject:

Whoops, sorry.
I use rom8x as well.
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fendun


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Posted: 11 Oct 2009 08:40:12 pm    Post subject:

I figured out how to use basic (I found a list of functions in their manual)...

Now I'd like to set up for assembly language...

I found http://dragonfire.unitedti.org/asmin28/lesson/day01.html (Learn TI-83 Plus in 28 days)...but its for TI-83. While TI-83 is similar...I'd like a TI84PLUSSE.INC file

Is there a tutorial on setting up for TI-84 assembly?
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