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SonicBoom95
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| To any talented ASM programmers out there looking for a project, I have one for you. Indestructotank. After playing, get back to me and see if you like the game, and are liking the idea of an 83+ port. |
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Galandros
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Simple, fun game!
And ironically you buy enemies and not parts XD
For me the hard implementing would be all those missiles (work making the AI) and hit detection and movement caused by the hit that I have no idea to implement that...
If I had more experience maybe I would port.
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cjgone
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| I think the physics is probably the hardest to implement with the limited math capabilities in asm. |
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DigiTan
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| Ah, there's barely any math to it if you do it right. With some really small sprites, there's no question it can be a sure-fire hit. Plus, the TI community will tank you for it. |
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GloryMXE7
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DigiTan wrote: Ah, there's barely any math to it if you do it right. With some really small sprites, there's no question it can be a sure-fire hit. Plus, the TI community will tank you for it.
[post="128672"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
NOOOOOOOOOH!!!!
It Buuuuurns!!!!! |
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Pseudoprogrammer
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| Posted: 13 Nov 2008 07:06:25 am Post subject: |
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| It would be an even more challenging project for home screen BASIC! -plots- |
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bananaman
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That game is pretty amazing. If my life wasn't so busy right now, I would try to program this.
On a different note. Can anyone beat a 144 combo? |
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Galandros
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The physics engine in the game seem not realistic or complex.
But I would have some hard work doing calculating collision force and to where the tank is projected...
So far I have some ideas to implement the engine... But I need more experience before going in such project. My classes of Physics and Math are useful for this kind of game XD (horizontal launches and vectors)
EDIT: maybe I had to do some research of my own to know some things in physics and math... Or wait 1 year because I will learn that next year. I only know horizontal launches with restrictions
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simplethinker
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Galandros wrote: The physics engine in the game seem not realistic or complex.
But I would have some hard work doing calculating collision force and to where the tank is projected...
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You are right about the physics not being quite right. The most obvious one is that you don't have the same downward acceleration as the bombs, but when calculating trajectories you just have to use a different constant for the player and the bombs. Plus, I don't see any major flaws where the basic mechanics equations can't be tweaked to match the game. You could probably find most of what you need in Wikipedia's list of classical mechanics equations.
Quote: EDIT: maybe I had to do some research of my own to know some things in physics and math... Or wait 1 year because I will learn that next year. I only know horizontal launches with restrictions
I'd say do some research on your own. You'll never learn better than when you're self motivated :biggrin: If you really enjoy mathematics and physics jump right in and research anything that sounds interesting. The only thing that could go wrong is being a college freshman stuck in the advanced optics and differential geometry courses... |
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bananaman
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You can simplify the physics by quite a bit when making this game. What you do is have a number representing your x velocity and another for your y velocity. During each frame you decrement your y velocity by an amount to pretend to be gravity. Whenever you hit a bomb or a plane you increase the y velocity by a specified amount depending upon whether you hit the top of the object or the bottom. You do the same thing for your x velocity except there is no gravity. You adjust it depending on the arrow keys and what side of the planes your tank struck.
This way you don't have to worry about all the equations. It would slow your game down to try to incorporate completely accurate physics. I believe that the bombs just fall at a constant rate which is why you can catch up to them. You probably want to do a few different physics frames before you update the display. |
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GloryMXE7
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| that can be used in any program if you dont care about realistic physics |
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Galandros
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| Posted: 15 Nov 2008 08:22:18 am Post subject: |
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bananaman wrote: You can simplify the physics by quite a bit when making this game. What you do is have a number representing your x velocity and another for your y velocity. During each frame you decrement your y velocity by an amount to pretend to be gravity. Whenever you hit a bomb or a plane you increase the y velocity by a specified amount depending upon whether you hit the top of the object or the bottom. You do the same thing for your x velocity except there is no gravity. You adjust it depending on the arrow keys and what side of the planes your tank struck.
This way you don't have to worry about all the equations. It would slow your game down to try to incorporate completely accurate physics. I believe that the bombs just fall at a constant rate which is why you can catch up to them. You probably want to do a few different physics frames before you update the display.
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Yeah, I thought that. But what about hitting in the sides? But simplifying only 6 kinds of hits:
bottom right, left and center
top right, left and center
Also the variables will be signed to know which direction.
Complicating this because I think that in the game when you hit somewhat on the side and top, the tank tends to go in the direction.
The problem is that I haven't make a game with simple hit detection (I'm planing making one but I would see better how while coding it)
That can be in my wait list. xD |
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GloryMXE7
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| Posted: 15 Nov 2008 09:55:39 am Post subject: |
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| also in the game the tank sometimes goes out the top of the screen |
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Galandros
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| Posted: 15 Nov 2008 11:23:08 am Post subject: |
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GloryMXE7 wrote: also in the game the tank sometimes goes out the top of the screen
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That is piece of cake. Just keep adding to the y position and make sure the sprite is put in the top of the screen and change in x if the player uses the keys. The v in y will decrease and reach the point that will make y start to be on screen.
Also we may mention the effects of all the objects. Some missiles and things react in odd ways. And start documenting the game. |
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GloryMXE7
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| Posted: 15 Nov 2008 12:07:55 pm Post subject: |
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| yes one missile bounces thre times another chases you until your vertical position is higher then the missiles but that souldnt be twoo hard i dont think |
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simplethinker
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Bouncer: drops it's bomb which will bounce off the ground once.
Gunner: fires three rockets that chase you except they can't move upwards.
Homer: shoots a rocket that follow you, but it's very weak unless it's coming up from below you.
Miner: the thing on the ground.
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GloryMXE7
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| and doest the fuel decrece on impact more than normal i think |
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darkstone knight
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GloryMXE7 wrote: and doest the fuel decrece on impact more than normal i think
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oof topic: learn english >_>
if you have noting to say, dont post
on topic: make fuell powerups!  |
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simplethinker
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darkstone knight wrote: oof topic: learn english >_>
if you have noting to say, dont post
on topic: make fuell powerups!
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That's kind of harsh. You're not doing much better.
I think you meant "Off topic", and "nothing", and "don't", and "fuel". There's also the lack of capitalization and punctuation...
Plus, the post was on topic.
Galandros wrote: ...And start documenting the game.[post="128806"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
I don't think impacting anything affects the fuel consumption. I've been looking at the fuel meter on impact and don't notice any changes. |
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GloryMXE7
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| Posted: 15 Nov 2008 06:23:43 pm Post subject: |
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yeah i just played the game again and didnt notice anything either
anyway i think we have everything we can get from the original game
maybe we should take a look at the sequals for anything else |
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