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Igrek
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TinycarZ works normally under CruchyOS.
It also works normally under CalcUtil, but it doesn't exit correctly (Ram Cleared).
It doesn't work correctly under Noshell (screen is totally screwed) , but it does exit correctly under Noshell (you have to move around in the menu without seeing anything).
As far as I know it works correctly under DoorsOS, thought I didn't check it, (I don't like DoorsOS so...)
(I have reinstalled windows XP on this machine.) |
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Harrierfalcon
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DoorsOs or DoorsCS?
Yeah, Noshell messes with Basic Ans, and I'm sure it messes with more than that. |
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magicdanw
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| Are you sure Noshell messes with Ans? I know for a while CalcUtil wouldn't display Ans at the end of a program running, but Ans was fine. I just had to put the value in OP1 before quitting the parser hook. |
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Igrek
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1.I meant DoorsCS (but they all en on OS, so...)
2.Noshell suddenly runs TinycarZ correctly :confused: ,and so does Calcutil??
3.After installing and uninstalling Calcutil/Noshell (I'm no sure which): if you run a archived program the RAM gets cleared.
4.Why does someone need a nice looking GUI, a simple GUI/TUI is quite all right isn't it?
Edit
5.This doesn't really belong here but I found out during the testing of Calcutil that there is a bug in the OS (2.30), do this:
-Try to run a archived program from the homescreen (so that it gives err:Archived)
-Press [2]
-Press [Up]
-Press [2nd]+[insert]
-Press [2nd]+[memory]
-Press [6]
-Press [Enter]
-Now the OS gives a err:Invalid, as if you would be running a basic program I checked in TILEM: 1,(iy+8 ) is actually on  . The flag will get cleared if you press [2nd]+[quit].
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magicdanw
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| That error seems to occur on OS 2.42 (nSpire OS) and OS 1.14. I've found other oddities while developing CalcUtil, like how there's no error if you try to store a string to a number variable (I think that's odd, anyway). |
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DarkerLine
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magicdanw wrote: I've found other oddities while developing CalcUtil, like how there's no error if you try to store a string to a number variable (I think that's odd, anyway).
[post="112371"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] That's because it actually stores the string (which it treats as a formula, because formulas are strings) to the list variable that you'd get if you added a L. "HELLO→X is the same as "HELLO→LX.
About the bug: a more impressive way to try it out is to try to run an archived program, select 2:Goto when the error comes up, and then type in something like Repeat 0:End from the Catalog - instead of giving an error like it normally would for using Repeat on the home screen, it gives you an infinite loop.
And TI-Flash Debugger with OS v1.16 has this glitch too.
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Igrek
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DarkerLine wrote: That's because it actually stores the string (which it treats as a formula, because formulas are strings) to the list variable that you'd get if you added a L. "HELLO→X is the same as "HELLO→LX.
Thought if you then type LX , you will get a data error: TI really screwed up there.
You can still read the string you stored in it if you press [STAT]+[1], then open the list called 'X' and press [2] in the data error. Maybe there is some test cheating potential here...
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Weregoose
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Igrek wrote: Thought if you then type LX , you will get a data error: TI really screwed up there. The only screw-up is that the stored formula does not contain a list. ;)
"{HELLO→X or even "{H,E,L,L,O→X would be valid.
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magicdanw
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| Hmm, maybe I'll take a look at the data behind that screwed up list. If there were a way to store and retrieve multiple strings from a hacked list variable using an assembly utility, I think it'd be pretty useful for basic programs. Even one string would be useful, because it could be named, unlike the Str variables. |
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TheStorm
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| That would be great for a text editor because then they could have unlimited named files. |
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magicdanw
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| Well, if you're messing in assembly code anyway, I think for a full text editor it'd be better to use programs or appvars, which would give even more freedom in file names. I was picturing string lists as useful for storing high score info or something, without requiring converting text to numbers and back. I think text files should be in a more stable variable. |
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Demon
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| It would be cool if you could store multiple strings... Arrays! |
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magicdanw
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Here's beta 2! Changes include:
The main menu doesn't have that skipped line from beta 1.
The settings menu is neater (I replaced the black/white "checkbox" with an appearing/disappearing asterisk, like in some TIOS menus).
Assembly programs quit more neatly.
Basic programs run much more quickly - a problem which has plagued CalcUtil from version 1 (I think) until now.
CalcUtil can chain directly with Symbolic and with modified versions of Omnicalc that use the crazy tokens. My app turns the tokens into real(xx tokens automatically when run. If you want them turned back into stuff like csc( and d(, you need to set the new third option in the settings screen. Otherwise, your tokens will stay like real(xx and be all normal and stuff. 
Maybe there's some other changes I forgot, but probably not. Let me know how stuff goes! Every one of your comments brings this program that much closer to release v2 final! :biggrin: |
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TheStorm
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ALCDFIX just crashed my calc when I ran it using CalcUtil so I think You may have some bugs to work out.
Edit: it worked this time WTF? It might have been a random bug.
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JoostinOnline
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| The thing that confuses me about ALCDFIX is that it runs as an ION program and as a nostub asm program, so what is it? I wonder if that has anything to do with your problem... :confused: |
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Harrierfalcon
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| There is an Ion header that can run as Nostub but also makes it recognized as an Ion program--the downside being you have to manually include the Ion routines. |
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JoostinOnline
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Harrierfalcon wrote: There is an Ion header that can run as Nostub but also makes it recognized as an Ion program--the downside being you have to manually include the Ion routines.
[post="112469"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
So do (m)any other programs use that header? |
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magicdanw
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| Hey, a couple of things I forgot: I improved chaining, so that it chains properly with Unit Ops and other programs that try to steal control of the hooks. |
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TheStorm
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Thats good  but I still don't know why my calc froze that one time after runing ALCDFIX. |
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Harrierfalcon
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JoostinOnline wrote: Harrierfalcon wrote: There is an Ion header that can run as Nostub but also makes it recognized as an Ion program--the downside being you have to manually include the Ion routines.
[post="112469"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
So do (m)any other programs use that header?
[post="112471"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
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