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I was thinking about making a dictionary for the TI 83+. It would be a flash app (in order to fulfill the size requirements), and would contain many (not all) of the words in a regular abridged (not un-abridged) dictionary. I was also thinking of including a feature (either as a program on your computer or as a feature of the app itself) that would allow the user to add new words.
Here are my question:
- Would you use it?
- What other features should I include (searching, spell check, thesuarus, etc.)?
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Harrierfalcon
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Seeing as how the spell-check app (DAWG) is huge, I'd omit the spell check. Dunno about the thesaurus.
Good idea, though, I'm tired of running for a dictionary every time I don't know a word. Got my calc in my pocket though, so I'd use it! |
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Cure
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Sounds good, and while some people may find it useful, it would not be very practical, to me personally. Usually when I need to look up the definition of a word, I am not around my calc, or don't find it useful to use it.
DAWG pretty much dominates the on-calc spell check idea right now, but a thesaurus would be awesome (that I might actually use, since I have my calculator handy more than a thesaurus).
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DarkerLine
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| Posted: 09 Jan 2007 08:12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, if you think about it, if it has a dictionary already, it shouldn't be too much (space-wise) to add a spell check. |
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c_plus_plus
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| A dictionary would take up a huge amount of space. Dawg's bulk was a wordlist, and it was huge. To add definitions to the words would require more space that even Dawg took up even if there wasn't as many words. If it were a practical size, I would use it. |
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Recursive Acronym
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| Posted: 09 Jan 2007 10:21:48 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm... just a thought, but you could compress it by having the definition contain 2 byte links to other words instead of spelling out the word.
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c_plus_plus
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| Posted: 09 Jan 2007 11:42:47 pm Post subject: |
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| what if you could then select any word in the deffinition and hop to it's definition? |
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IAmACalculator
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2007 08:01:19 am Post subject: |
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*cough* CLICK *cough*
Notefolio works well enough for me. |
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luby
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2007 08:53:08 am Post subject: |
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| That takes up way too much space and is very cumbersome because there are so many sub-libraries. I think a dictionary on one flash app would be great. |
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IAmACalculator
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| Ah yes, but it's so huge because it has so many words. You could make a smaller one, but only by having fewer words. |
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todlangweilig
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Since the size of the dictionary will be a severe limiting factor, why not use a flash drive and msd8x? Or if this is not feasible due to a lack of a usb calc, then some form of external media. Granted it will limit the number of users, but one might as well make it fully fledged.
In my opinion, having only 10000 word or less dictionary will only lead to disappointment and wasted space. I have a 100k word spellchecker/dictionary and I only found it effective about 8/10 times. I would imagine 10k words would only be effective to me 5/10 times. To me, that doesn't justify the memory required.
Having full definitions for 100-200+k words on a calc would be impressive. I believe this project would be a good candidate for external media, but some of the hardware hasn't caught up yet. There is no viable way to hook up external storage to a non-usb calc. When this does happen, this project would become a worthwhile addition to anyones calc. But if you have access to a usb calc, then I would say go for it. |
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luby
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| if you do that, then you might as well download wikipedia (printer-friendly version) and put it on there. |
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WikiGuru
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Quote: I would imagine 10k words would only be effective to me 5/10 times. To me, that doesn't justify the memory required.
1 flash page is 16k. It's easy to fit a 1-3 page app on your calculator (if you have a silver and haven't filled it up with tons of archived programs/other apps/emu8x :biggrin: ) |
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todlangweilig
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2007 05:48:20 pm Post subject: |
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| "10k words" meaning 10,000 english words, not 10k computer words or bytes. I was just getting that figure from the dictionary already posted. |
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| oops... My mind read 10k and immediatly assumed what you were trying to say... or express. |
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Delnar_Ersike
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(dreaming) maybe a French-English dictionary, or a German-English dictionary feature would be nice (/dreaming)
my question is that would you put in informal words' definitions?
also, many definitions in dictionaries point to other words' definitions and it is a pain trying to find a definition for three different words just to know the definition for the first one. You could add directly linking to a different definition when it is necessary.
an option to add your own definitions would be nice  ... |
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todlangweilig
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2007 07:27:58 pm Post subject: |
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luby wrote: if you do that, then you might as well download wikipedia (printer-friendly version) and put it on there.
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Possible space wise with a harddrive. I imagine it would take ~9.5 - 30GB for all 1.5million articles. (6000bytes per article*1575804articles) But rather infeasible for other reasons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_wikipe...ine_publication Namely, having enough people and getting the articles in the first place. Somehow I don't think Wikipedia will like us tying up bandwidth downloading all 1.5M articles. |
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