METAL SLUG ANYONE?

[baorder54]

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METAL SLUG ANYONE?
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Background:

1) Metal slug is a 2d scrolling shoot em up aka run 'n gun.
2) It is a futuristic game that makes a spoof on terrorism and bla blah blah.
3) There are two original characters to chose from:
* Marco Rossi
* Tarma Roving
4) They are part of a special elite team called the Peregrine Falcon Squad.
5) Weapons: pistol, machine gun, flameshot, rocket launcher, shotgun, bombs.
6) There is one vehicle that the cahracter can ride. The METAL SLUG itself is a small one man tank, it has a machine gun like weapon called the vulcan and small rockets.
7) Enemies include but are not limited to: germans, yetis, aliens, zombies, mummies etc.
It's extremely fun.



NOW FOR GOALS:

1) Accuracy: I want this to be as accurate as possible.
2) smooth scrolling
3) Possibly a level editor?
4) Both characters to chose from
5) Most if not all weapons
6) zombies, germans, aliens at least
7) Fast gameplay

If you are interested REPLY SOON! Thanks

Remember: This is going to be in z80 asm.

[bananaman]

I'm interested. I don't know if I'll be able to give too much time with my super busy life right now. But we'll see what I can do.

[Fallen Ghost]

Maybe you have not alot of replies because the most of the work is actually the code, not the artwork...

@banaman: I bet your secret project is the TI-freakware contest entry. Hmm, let's see

[baorder54]

Cool thanks! If we get more people this could be a great project.

Here are some sptires I've made so far...


Stand Sprites:


Im also working on the scrolling routine right now

[Fallen Ghost]

Ok, making sprites and all the artwork is maybe 75 hours (for a good ASM game, for someone that is not good in artwork)

Making the code is maybe, let's say 200 hours for someone that knows exactly what he/she does in ASM, so for a non-E1|73, maybe 350+.

I may be exaggerating the hours a bit, but the ratio is still the same. I don't want to put your project down by this. I'm just saying it's already rough to find people when they do only artwork... so coders. Anyway, I'll let you have fun with your program, as I already have another big ASM project to do.

[baorder54]

it just sounds like your trying to dissuade me from making the game. Thanks.....

[Fallen Ghost]

[bananaman]

I'm actually not a very good artist, but I would be willing to help with the code for the project.

@ Fallen: No my secret project is not for the Freakware contest. I never had time to complete my game for that one, although I had a pretty good engine going.

[baorder54]

Cool that's wat is gioing to take 350+ hours says gohst rider falling. I mean i got a lota sprites that are decent. But we can cghange those. By the way, the metal slug tank in arcade games has the gun that shoots 360 degrees. But since were working with a crap calc, i think we should limit it to this:


If ur pressing left it will shoot left
If ur pressing right it will shoot right
if ur pressing up it will shoot up
(maybe if we want: when tank is on higher level then eneies, tank can shoot down at them. But i dont know)

By the way if we do this, Ive got right and left sprites for tank ill edit this post when i upload image.

EDIT

Here we go left and right shooting for tanks:



What do you think?

BTW for the scroll routine, putting in account that we want a smooth scroll, should we use dwedits? or what do u think bananaman?

[bananaman]

I don't know. I haven't programmed a smooth scrolling game yet, so I don't have too much input into what elf helper I like to use the most.

[AlienCC]

Looking forward to this game.

--AlienCC

[baorder54]

Well considering its fast, and almost fastest, I say we cant do anybetter. And this game will be cpu draining. we need the fastsest we can get. There are gonna be a lotta sprites on the screen at the same time so...

EDIT

JACKPOT



Marco Rossi Sprites, Im gonna try to make animations. btw i just learned their is a faster scrolling screnn than dwedits, its crash_man's or somehting. Gotta find it first. We should probably get someone to help us who is more skilled in scrolling. Know anone?

[bananaman]

Spencer would be crazy, but he is doing Zelda and wouldn't have any time.

Aren't some of those sprites a little bit overboard for the calc, for example do we really need to have one for drinking water? I don't know very much about the game so don't scream at me if it is fundamental or anything.

[baorder54]

Dude its just a google image i found. Im not gonna make alll them! lol There is no need for water drinking and i dont thin we should do reloading( never remember metal slug having reload) Its just a tool. And no there wont be 9 different frames. I just pulled this up and i think this will help.


Sprite We Need:
Charachters:
run
jump
duck
shoot
grenade
respawn: i was thinking that because when u die and respawn in game u come back flashing, like most games.
Melee attack

Metal slug Tank:
shoot right/left/up
jump(yes the slug jumps)

Bad guys
shoot
gernade
run

Thats it!

Thats not too much is it? We can downsize if we have to.

[Liazon]

As fast as Crash's tilemapper is (insane 100fps), it has limits

You can only use 32 tiles, and I'm pretty sure that won't be enough to make nice backgrounds like in most metal slug games.

also, 50 fps is generally a good number. from what I've heard, any more than that is a waste of clock cycles that could be spent doing other calculations. Although 100 fps would be pretty cool still.

afaik, most metal slug games look like they're scrolling through large background pictures as opposed to be tilebased. you could write your own mapper for this purpose in mind.

or you could use dwedit's and use lot's of tiles. it's up to you really.

[baorder54]

Thats a thought. I was thinking that because a whole scenic background is alot for the calc. I was thnking about having a slow scxrolling background. And if there was a map editor say, u would choose a theme. a snowy background, desert, city, blahblah. But u bring up a good point Liazon.

[Fallen Ghost]

I've read that Jim_E made some in the Sonic progress thread. Looks like it's the optimized version of Dwedit's tilemapper (that's what he says, I never used a tilemapper, so I don't know what it is like)

linky

Sonic thread post

[Liazon]

o.o how are you making Starcraft w/o a mapper? or do you mean that you make your own mappers?

[baorder54]

starcraft? are u talking to ghost or me? OFF TOPIC ALERT!! OFF TOPIC ALERT!! jk

[Fallen Ghost]

Then let's not ruin Wrp's topic and use PMs.

I agree with the fact in Metal slug, it would pretty much more be a big image, because the background isn't very repetitive (depends on which version/flash you played). If it is very repetitive, you should use a tilemapper for memory savings.

I think that handling a reasonable amount of units is better than to have to search a very large matrix (of over 128*128) each frame for sprites... That's why I don't like tilemapping