Community project

[bananaman]

[Sage Orator]

Huh, okay. Let us know if you decide to truly go through with the asm version.

[Cure]

I think the story line is too generic.

[bananaman]

I don't want to have too rigid of a storyline b/c I want to make a lot of the game up to the user to decide what to do. So you don't have to do all the quests and you can make friends with either the north or the south, and the game should be able to be replayed b/c its not linear and completely structured.
I agree that it shouldn't be too generic either or else it doesn't have too much of a point and it seems you are just randomly doing stuff. If you have any suggestions for what to make specificer please say them.

[bananaman]

Ok, I have decided to do it in ASM. I'm sorry if this leaves any of you out who wanted to code. This means it might take a bit longer to complete, but I don't care too much as long as the game is good. Please don't start any Basic vs. Asm flames for my decision.

Also, I was thinking about the story line and it is really lacking stuff so I have three suggestions. One is to change the project to a remake of Dragon Warrior. There is already one done for the 86 so we could "port" that one, I have a lot of info about Dragon Warrior and would only need help finding out what every NPC says. I have all enemy stats except for the final boss, so it shouldn't be too difficult. The only problem being that I'm not sure exactly how great of a game it is.
Another suggestion would be to change the theme of the game to a modern time period where you are a Senior at a local high school (my own) and you have to protect the school from being overrun by the mice. (It could be interesting and certainly be more original than medieval time period stuff).
The final thing we could do, would be to change the story we are using and keep it similar to what we have planned so far. The thing I would change though is make it so that you are really an orphan and your "dad", the lord that adopted you, dispenses you with some money after he is certain that his kid can carry on his name (he took you in b/c he didn't have any kids at the time), then you go out into the world to prove yourself but you don't have any vassals (this gets rid of a lot of difficulties). I didn't like the idea of planning and making the round based battle system for 11 characters for each person anyways. With the new story line there would be a timer that changes between night and day and you have to sleep some time, but could be attacked in the night if you aren't staying somewhere and eventually you build a house and blah blah blah. I don't know how to do a battle system with this though. I don't want to have a turn based system and I don't want a round based with only one character. I would want the enemies on the screen and if they hit you, you would go into a small screen where you fight the enemies in real time with a sword and spear, but I couldn't code this right now, I don't know enough ASM.
So please post which idea you like best and I guess we will choose which path to go down and then we can continue coding.

[Fallen Ghost]

I think the last idea is better because:

#1. Remaking a unknown calc game (for another calc) isn't really the best idea (IMO)
#2. Having it become a modern period would be like having guns and no swords (or maybe only for some berserk fun). It would be nice, all depending on how it works
#3. This would be a storyline like in Morrowind/Oblivion, and they are nice so why not (as long as they ar not carbon-copies of them)

Also, making it in ASM, if it's only 1 vs 1 with AI (probably up to 5 vs 5 maximum to get a decent speed with decent graphics), then it is possible to make it Real-time and no menus or turn-based (like a fight menu and a spell and you know). If you want help with your code, I can try.

[bananaman]

#1. No go, I looked at the code and realized that I would have a hard time porting from the 86 to the 83, the 86 has so much extra memory and stuff that I would have to rewrite the majority of everything so I may as well come up with my own game idea.
#2. It wouldn't have guns and no swords, it would probably have items like mouse traps, baseball bats, cattle prods, extermination bombs and so forth. It would be totally off the wall and loony.
#3. I've never heard of those games before so I don't think I'll have the problem of copying them. I like this idea the best so far, b/c I just do.

[Fallen Ghost]

The starting project was a medieval-like story, but I just don't understand the mouse trap, baseball bat. Is it like a Worms? Or is main character a mouse?

[bananaman]

It would be a messed up RPG where you are a senior at my high school and the school is being overrun by rats (a true story), but these rats wouldn't be normal they would be ROUSes (princess bride). To save the school you would defeat the rats with baseball bats and cattle prods w/o letting the girls find the rats or else mass hysteria would break loose. Then again, why would I want to write a game that promotes saving school. Shouldn't it be, try to bring rats into the school in order to close the school.

[Fallen Ghost]

*Very* different of medieval project starting...

Why not, as long as the story is interesting