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boost


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Posted: 19 Jan 2006 10:47:20 pm    Post subject:

i was going through the ticalc profiles, and a few things caught my eyes.

1)http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/170/17075.html
the author says that this is a two color game... and that he manipulated the lcd to show some slight colors. (yellow blue)
(however it froze halfway)

2)http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/182/18214.html
plans for a color screen?


is it posssible to code the monitor to show rgb colorings??
its quite impossible, but the gentle portuguese lady in the plans says so. Sad
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kalan_vod


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Posted: 19 Jan 2006 11:48:54 pm    Post subject:

The first program is just turning up the lcd all the way which makes it appear two colors. The second I wouldn't do as it would murder you batteries and why would you need that just get a pocket pc or tablet.
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kermmartian
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 12:05:17 am    Post subject:

http://www.ticalc.org/archives/files/fileinfo/182/18214.html

Extensive testing found that LCD refresh rate is too low for this to work well.
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DigiTan
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 05:46:21 pm    Post subject:

I really wish people would quit advertising that stuff as color when they're really just optical illusions or LCD overheating.

To clarify, this isn't a color screen, it's "colored backlighting." The colour Display.txt plans were anything but extensive. The linkport is fast enough to support color mixing, and in fact, it resembles a common technique used with RGB LEDs to get virtually any color in the spectrum, not just the 8 listed in the text. Having only 2 link lines makes it a little tricky, but its been done in a ~similar project here. Definately possible with the linkport.
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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 06:16:44 pm    Post subject:

Well, it IS possible to turn a calc screen blue, but not recommended, as it can burn out the pixels. Truely the Blue Screen of Death. Don't, under any circumstances (unless you're trying to murder a calc) run a blue LCD program from ticalc.org, or anywhere.
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kermmartian
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 07:11:25 pm    Post subject:

DigiTan wrote:
I really wish people would quit advertising that stuff as color when they're really just optical illusions or LCD overheating. 

To clarify, this isn't a color screen, it's "colored backlighting."  The colour Display.txt plans were anything but extensive.  The linkport is fast enough to support color mixing, and in fact, it resembles a common technique used with RGB LEDs to get virtually any color in the spectrum, not just the 8 listed in the text.  Having only 2 link lines makes it a little tricky, but its been done in a ~similar project here.  Definately possible with the linkport.
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But if you're trying to make a screen in even 8 colors, using three color masks, one each for r,g,b, the LCD latency makes it all come out to a muddy brown. I had hoped for this, but unfortunately TI's sucky LCD got in the way. Sad
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Brazucs
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 07:50:34 pm    Post subject:

I ran the BSoD program on an old calc overnight.
It still functions properly.
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DigiTan
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 07:52:19 pm    Post subject:

Yes, as far I've seen, there's never been a successful display that worked by RGB'ing the entire display. Plus the back panel is blueish green, and wouldn't look right.
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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:34:58 pm    Post subject:

Brazucs wrote:
I ran the BSoD program on an old calc overnight.
It still functions properly.
[post="67440"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

Really? I've always heard that blue LCD programs broke the screen. Oh well.
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Radical Pi


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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 10:46:35 pm    Post subject:

IAmACalculator wrote:
Brazucs wrote:
I ran the BSoD program on an old calc overnight.
It still functions properly.
[post="67440"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

Really? I've always heard that blue LCD programs broke the screen. Oh well.
[post="67470"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

When used extensively, I believe.
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kalan_vod


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Posted: 20 Jan 2006 11:20:27 pm    Post subject:

It just burns the LCD screen if used to often.
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Brazucs
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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 12:00:10 am    Post subject:

Radical Pi wrote:
IAmACalculator wrote:
Brazucs wrote:
I ran the BSoD program on an old calc overnight.
It still functions properly.  [post="67440"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

Really? I've always heard that blue LCD programs broke the screen. Oh well. [post="67470"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

When used extensively, I believe. [post="67472"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]

14 hours... that should be extensive enough.
I'll keep it running longer to see how much I can push it.


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chipmaster


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 01:14:21 am    Post subject:

I have found that running it on my 84+se (probably with a different, albeit crappier, lcd) it turned the entire screen blue, while on an 83+ it turned on a single row. In both cases I had them running for almost a minute straight without any damage.
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Brazucs
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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 12:16:05 pm    Post subject:

Another night and the calc is fine. I'm beginning to think this is a myth...
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CDI


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 12:30:39 pm    Post subject:

Or you have the one SuperCalc... sit it next to a piece of kryptonite and see if to works then Very Happy
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IAmACalculator
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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 01:29:49 pm    Post subject:

Brazucs wrote:
Another night and the calc is fine. I'm beginning to think this is a myth...
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Maybe. I've just heard that a lot. I've never tested it, though.
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Radical Pi


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 06:45:19 pm    Post subject:

I oly saw the BSoD once, due to an error in my basic.
This could be a myth for the advanced programmers, as program lag is a myth to newbies...
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chipmaster


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 07:46:29 pm    Post subject:

Hmmm, well if this is truely harmless, then this would be great for games. Cool
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Radical Pi


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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 07:56:20 pm    Post subject:

Keep going, Brazucs, disprove the myth so we can use Bluescale art!
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DigiTan
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Posted: 21 Jan 2006 08:16:22 pm    Post subject:

This bluescreen stuff is like the Game Gear commercial where the guy smacks himself with a dead squirrel to see color on his Gameboy.

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