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Bob Ebophalus


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Posted: 13 Jun 2005 09:17:49 pm    Post subject:

Would there be any major problems with replacing a TI-83+ SE case with a metal one? I was thinking cast aluminum or maybe milled out of billet or something. I'm mainly worried about interference with all the metal so close to so much electronical stuff.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 12:01:16 am    Post subject:

Normally since aluminum doesn't magnetize well, it's helpful for stopping RF from getting in or out. But there may still be some leakage though the LCD opening.

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shadowing
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 01:03:58 am    Post subject:

It'd be pretty cool to have an aluminum casing. Better than that, go carbon fiber. :D

I should try this one out. Btw, are there any dimensions on it?
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Bob Ebophalus


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 09:16:29 am    Post subject:

There aren't really any dimensions yet. I haven't been terribly serious about this so far, I've been waiting to see if it would be a viable replacement for the plastic case. I'd also want to try it out on an extra calc first, just in case (hehe) something goes wrong. Anyone want to send me their calc?
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Brazucs
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 10:12:01 am    Post subject:

I have an old calculator with a screwed up screen you could use. PM/email me if you're interested.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 12:15:52 pm    Post subject:

Are you going to replace the entire case or just the slide cover? If you were trying for the whole case, maybe trying the slide cover first might give you an idea of the difficulty.
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thecheatscalc


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 01:30:54 pm    Post subject:

getting those curves dow would be hard...
possile problems:
1. aluminum is pretty rough and there is no real way to smooth it... so if it was a AL (AU? as in AL=aluminum) case on an AL cover it might scratch them both up pretty bad...
2. and why AL and titanium?
3. what if you drop the calculator? I'm pretty sure if it landed wrong the aluminum would bend, and aluminum is notoriously bad at snapping when you try to bent it back in shape.
4. wouldn't short circuting be a problem? I remember when I was making my hovercraft that making and mounting a cut off switch on the grating around the engine caused a continuous short circut*.


just to let you know I'm not really sure if it would be a problem using aluminum or not. also I DO know that titanum is expensive.

* the grating on the hovercraft kept hands from 3,000+rpm propeller blades and touched the engine. also the cutoff switch was connected to the sparkplug and engine/grating touching the engine, this was a switch mounted on a circut board and I had put the bottom of the circut board on the grating, so push the button and... well... guess the rest.
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aforsy
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 01:37:01 pm    Post subject:

in the periodic table of elements (i'm assuming that's what you're referring to), Aluminum is Al. Au is gold.

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thecheatscalc


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 01:57:30 pm    Post subject:

oh oops at least I got it right and I forgot to mention that I DON'T want to discourage you to make something like this
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Brazucs
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 02:46:34 pm    Post subject:

Which kind would be best for molding? You know, make a mold out of something then drop the metal in liquid form in... heating it up would be pretty tough, eh?
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 02:52:16 pm    Post subject:

If you're going to be pouring into a mold, good luck with titianium or steel.
Aluminum — Melting Point: 660.37 °C (933.52 °K, 1220.666 °F)
Titanium — Melting Point: 1660.0 °C (1933.15 °K, 3020.0 °F)
Steel -- Melting point: ~1510.0 °C (2500 °F)

Hmm Google should know that Kelvin is a unit in itself, no degree sign is used.
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 02:55:48 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, I guess you'd need a professional to do that, eh? Never mind my idea...
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thecheatscalc


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 04:07:04 pm    Post subject:

maybe a few of the hottest welding torches and some clay would do it you just push the clay around the case then let it dry ON the case (a week at least). makesure there are no air bubbles in the clay then fire it with the case STILL in the mold then LIGHT THAT SUCKER UP!!!! (in a kiln WITH the case still in it) let it cool enough to pour the plastic out then let it cool the rest of the way. now yougots your mold to put the molten aluminum in the mold (make sure it's hot too)

problems
1. aluminum likes to disapear when heated... :confused: dont ask me
2. you have to do this the first time because the plastic case is now a molten lump
3. molten aluminum makes nice third degree burns
4. I'm pretty sure that the ceramic won't melt but it might...
5. you're gonna have to break the mold which might not be good...

if all goes well well have fun polishing your new metal case!



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aforsy
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 05:22:14 pm    Post subject:

just use lead! low melting temp. AND shields your calc from radiation!!
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thecheatscalc


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 05:33:23 pm    Post subject:

so would other metals ok I know this is off topic but....
maderial needed to stop the rays

alpha rays sheet of paper
beta rays sheet of steel
gamma rays 7foot thick lead wall (that's right is it not?)
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aforsy
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 05:59:37 pm    Post subject:

well...i was just joking...but whatever.
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Bob Ebophalus


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 06:04:20 pm    Post subject:

alexrudd: I was going to do the slide cover first, then the case if that went well.

thecheatscalc wrote:
getting those curves dow would be hard...
possile problems:
1. aluminum is pretty rough and there is no real way to smooth it... so if it was a  AL (AU? as in AL=aluminum) case on an AL cover it might scratch them both up pretty bad...
2. and why AL and titanium?
3.  what if you drop the calculator? I'm pretty sure if it landed wrong the aluminum would bend, and aluminum is notoriously bad at snapping when you try to bent it back in shape.
4. wouldn't short circuting be a problem? ...
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1. If I did this, it would probably be a polished finish at first, then change to a brushed finished later on, when it's already been scratched some. Besides, the only places the cover and case meet are at the sides, and nobody looks at those Razz.

2. Where did you get the idea i was going to use titanium?

3. I don't drop my calc, and won't let anybody else use it to prevent them dropping it.

4. Good question. Calc gurus: are there any exposed things inside that would short out against the case? If so, what could I do to the inside to prevent them from shorting?

More questions: Approximately how much aluminum (if I use aluminum; unless there are any better choices I probably will) should it need? Could I melt down aluminum soda cans? If not, how expensive will this be? Of course, I could buy some silver ingots and make it a true silver edition Very Happy. Also, how could I inscribe the markings on the case? Mill them in? It looks like they're painted on my case. I was hoping they were stickers I could buy.

aforsy: Yeah, and get some lead poisoning while I'm at it Wacko. Just kidding.
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elfprince13
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 06:11:31 pm    Post subject:

you could start a calculator case-mod business!!! no..seriously, it's not hat hard to make a vacuum-forming machine for making customized molds (just use google to find a website on making stormtrooper armor)
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thecheatscalc


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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 07:19:50 pm    Post subject:

err the 2 question came out wrong it was meant to be why aluminum and not titanum

you should use some nickel or magnisum or look here for some lower temperature alloys that would be easy to melt but would require a flame TO melt them ka-click the bismuth is DIAMAGNETIC so it repels magnets....or you could use pirolytic grapghite which will FLOAT over supermagnets.

just some ideas and these would be great prizes for some certain contests....


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shadowing
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Posted: 14 Jun 2005 11:30:35 pm    Post subject:

Hmm... I think I'll attempt to build one over ths summer for real. If I get around to it... might as well use aluminum. Btw, how in the world do you protect the circuit board from short circuiting on contact with the aluminum?
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