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aforsy
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i'm not sure where this should go, so i guess if here's not a good place, someone could move it.
i was just thinking about how the 89 and 92 and those calcs often say "decompressing" when you start up a big program, and was just wondering if it would be possible to incorporate a space-saving compression/decompression utility into the 83 series.
maybe it could be a flash utility like Krolypto. it could automatically compress programs above a certain size, and then when you run them from the homescreen, it would automatically decompress them for you.
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DigiTan
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| DWedit's PUCrunch shell does something like this I think. I'm not sure why 83+ progs aren't already compressed when they are archived, it would really be helpful. I guess TI felt it was unnecessary. An 89 program would have to be really big (or use some high-level compression) if it keeps you waiting. RW (de)compresses kilobytes so fast it's not noticeble. |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 10:39:50 am Post subject: |
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| Corridor99 has decompressing when I run it from VTI |
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aforsy
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 11:18:22 am Post subject: |
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| Othello (the one by that French dude), Corridor99, TiChess, and (i think) Phoenix Platinum all have a noticeable "decompressing" message when you run them on my friend's 89-Ti. |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 01:27:12 pm Post subject: |
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| is there on for 83+ other than PUCrunch....anyway PuCrunch is downloadable for just about any system and I hate CrunchyOS...no GUI |
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CoBB
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| On-calc compression is not feasible, given that you want to use algorithms that save considerable space--just as a base for comparison, on the C64 it could easily take a whole night to compress a program. Decompression is a completely different business. |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 03:57:07 pm Post subject: |
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| dang it! how about for off-calc compression-on-calc decompression? |
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Brazucs
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Quote: I hate CrunchyOS...no GUI What's wrong with that? I think the real problem is no program management. |
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sgm
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 05:43:17 pm Post subject: |
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Brazucs wrote: Quote: I hate CrunchyOS...no GUI What's wrong with that? I think the real problem is no program management.
[post="51690"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
At least it follows the UNIX philosophy:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosop...Worse_is_Better
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2005 06:39:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess thats not exactly what i meant. i think i meant the gui is bad. it doesn't have continuous scrolling, instead it jumps everrytime you get to the bottom of the screen...also somewhat off topic, but has anybody figured out how to play that wierd little game that comes built into CrunchyOS |
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DigiTan
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 02:48:43 am Post subject: |
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elfprince13 wrote: is there on for 83+ other than PUCrunch....anyway PuCrunch is downloadable for just about any system and I hate CrunchyOS...no GUI
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Whoops! That's what I meant to say: CrunchyOS. Serves me right for posting in the wee hours. A GUI is nice, but -eh- not totally critical. |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 09:59:43 am Post subject: |
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| actually, both CrunchyOS, and basicBuilder utilize PUCrunch...try googling it...see how many hits you'll get. it seems to be a fairly common compression algorithm |
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Brazucs
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 11:29:49 am Post subject: |
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Quote: has anybody figured out how to play that wierd little game that comes built into CrunchyOS What little game? SOme sort of Easter Egg? |
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aforsy
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 02:08:24 pm Post subject: |
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CoBB wrote: On-calc compression is not feasible, given that you want to use algorithms that save considerable space--just as a base for comparison, on the C64 it could easily take a whole night to compress a program. Decompression is a completely different business.
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what?
DigiTan wrote: RW (de)compresses kilobytes so fast it's not noticeble. |
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sgm
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 04:25:17 pm Post subject: |
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aforsy wrote: CoBB wrote: On-calc compression is not feasible, given that you want to use algorithms that save considerable space--just as a base for comparison, on the C64 it could easily take a whole night to compress a program. Decompression is a completely different business.
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what?
DigiTan wrote: RW (de)compresses kilobytes so fast it's not noticeble.
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Must be because RW doesn't use "algorithms that save considerable space." |
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aforsy
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 07:00:30 pm Post subject: |
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| ah. so RW doesn't really compress a whole lot, is that it? |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 09 Jun 2005 08:16:53 pm Post subject: |
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Brazucs wrote: Quote: has anybody figured out how to play that wierd little game that comes built into CrunchyOS What little game? SOme sort of Easter Egg?
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not sure, its this wierd little game, and the opening screen has a dog on it. doesn't show up in mirage, or the program list. ive hidden and unhidden everything using krolypto but still nothing. im not sure what it was called, cause I deleted CrunchyOS, but it shows up at the top of the programs list |
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Brazucs
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| Posted: 10 Jun 2005 10:34:46 am Post subject: |
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| I have both Mirage and Crunchy and it's not showing up... |
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elfprince13
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| Posted: 10 Jun 2005 10:41:08 am Post subject: |
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| very odd...must be some kind of easter egg...search your entire list on Crunchy....try hitting random buttons...i dont know. |
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sgm
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| Posted: 10 Jun 2005 05:29:07 pm Post subject: |
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| It's Chu Chu Rocket. CrunchyOS has a feature that lets you put programs into the App itself instead of having a separate program. Check out the manual. |
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