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kalan_vod
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Posted: 23 May 2006 07:54:05 pm Post subject: |
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Liazon wrote: But aren't Crunchy Compressed programs only playable in Crunchy?
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Yes, but half the size >.> |
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Liazon title goes here
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Posted: 23 May 2006 08:08:00 pm Post subject: |
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kalan_vod wrote: Yes, but half the size >.>
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Ya, I noticed when comparing the Crunchy versions of Gemini and Dying Eyes. Too bad there haven't been more compressed versions of Mirage/Ion games ported to Crunchy
What do you have to modify to make them Crunchy compatible anyways? I think Crunchy would be more popular at my school if I could convince people they could play Mirage games on it (i know it is Mirage/Ion compatible, but no body listens/cares) and they could get smaller Crunchy exclusive versions too. |
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elfprince13 Retired
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Posted: 23 May 2006 08:09:27 pm Post subject: |
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doesn't omnicalc support compression too? |
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kalan_vod
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Posted: 23 May 2006 08:11:53 pm Post subject: |
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There are several reasons why Chruchy is better/worse.
Better:
1. Compression of programs
2. Does not unarchive programs and re archive them, which causes less wear and tear on your calc
Worse:
1. Not proper emulation of basic games, not that you should run it from it anyway >.>
I remember Dan was working on converting all the games into compressed chruchy games.
@EP: Light 8x I believe.
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DarkerLine ceci n'est pas une |
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Posted: 23 May 2006 09:08:12 pm Post subject: |
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Does it decompress the entirety of the code before running it, or does it work some other way? |
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kalan_vod
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Posted: 23 May 2006 09:18:47 pm Post subject: |
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DarkerLine wrote: Does it decompress the entirety of the code before running it, or does it work some other way?
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I am not sure, but you can contact Dan on MC (dwedit) and ask him.
Sorry for being off-topic >.< |
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 23 May 2006 09:32:26 pm Post subject: |
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Nah, it's not off topic. I'll have to check out CrunchyOS before I can decide anyways. So far, the titlescreen was compressed by 23%; the menu screen by 24%; and Wario's boombox at 39% in the TI-82 build.
On a side note, I was looking at the new WarioWare Wii videos and it showed some pretty creative use of that freaky new controller. Also, I was looking for a few famous calc games (new and old) to throw in as minigames. Anything's fair game as long as it's not hyper-advanced. IE- no 3D, no scaled sprites, no elaborate graphic effects.
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Liazon title goes here
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Posted: 24 May 2006 03:43:09 pm Post subject: |
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kalan_vod wrote: There are several reasons why Chruchy is better/worse.
Better:
1. Compression of programs
2. Does not unarchive programs and re archive them, which causes less wear and tear on your calc
Worse:
1. Not proper emulation of basic games, not that you should run it from it anyway >.>
I remember Dan was working on converting all the games into compressed chruchy games.
@EP: Light 8x I believe.
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So overall Crunchy is better. Too bad nobody understands any of these advantages. They just all do what the cool people do and use Mirage without even understanding what Mirage is. Well I guess it's typical to just use something that you know will work.
edit: Crunchy doesn't create an APP var, so it saves like 42 kb/bytes? iirc. I guess the bad thing about that is no password protect and "Save the Whales"
Digitan: sorry for being offtopic. Good luck though.
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Rhynomite
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Posted: 24 May 2006 05:01:13 pm Post subject: |
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Suggestions: You can make micro games of the Game & Watch series, also Wario Ware games always have mini NES games like excitebike, mario, etc. |
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 24 May 2006 06:48:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah. There's actually TI game n watch game somewhere around here, so I really goes with the calc games theme. Sam Heald's Mario is a shoo-in, and probably a bunch of others.
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Here's a couple I've been looking at. The game will probably need a mix of ASCII-style games to keep the RAM usage down, but we can probably throw in a few of detailed ones as long as the code doesn't get out of hand. The main prog will probably have a library of small routines for sprite drawing and other common tasks.
Arcade:
There's lot of directions these can go in. A Lotus game could invovle avoiding another car (and it was pretty hard in the original). For Lotus I would only do straightaways, no curves or tunnels.
RPGs:
A built-in menu & rectangle draw routine could allow mini games where you have to select the right item or kill to the correct monster before the time limit.
Action
A Mario game could involve stomping critters or grabbing coins. It probably wouldn't have scrolling.
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Rhynomite
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Posted: 08 Jun 2006 05:51:35 pm Post subject: |
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How about
Snuff!
Repeatedly press down to hold the snuffer over the candle long enough to put it out, and before time runs out.
So far all the specific ideas we have are:
By jvd:
1.Smash!
2.Land!
3.Fire!
4.Wake!
5.Solve!
6.Archive!
7.Pick!
Others:
8.Choose!
9.Spin!
10.Replace!
11.Swipe!
12.Cancel!
13.Delete!
14.Guess!
15.Tug!
16.Sniff!
17.Add/Find Operation!
18.Whack!
There are also two modes, the regular game mode and the "Custom Mix."
If I forgot your idea or you have a new one, I will add to this list.
EDIT: Re-organized list.
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 09 Jun 2006 12:55:13 am Post subject: |
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One twist we could put in the math game is having the gamer guess the operation. Display two numbers and a solution and list +, -, *, and so on. Really fits into the multiple-coice theme. |
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Weregoose Authentic INTJ
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Posted: 09 Jun 2006 02:51:22 am Post subject: |
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[font="courier new"]2+int(rand6→A
"░ [color=gray]//1 space
For(B,1,A
Ans+sub("√(e^(sin(cos(tan(abs(fPart(iPart(",randInt(1,8),1)…
…+sub("123456789",randInt(1,9),1)…
…+sub("+-*/^",randInt(1,5),1)…
…+sub("123456789",randInt(1,9),1
End
ClrHome
Disp "CLOSE!
Output(3,1,sub(Ans,2,4A
"----
Output(7,1,Ans+Ans+Ans+Ans
DelVar B200→C
Repeat L=105 or not(C
Repeat K or not(C
Output(8,1,C
Output(8,2+int(log(C)),"░ //1 space
DS<(C,0
getKey→K
Ans(A≤B→L
End
B+(K=64→B
A≤Ans
If A≥B and K=64
Output(8,B+4not(Ans)-BAns+5Ans,sub(")PRESS ENTER!",Ans+1,11Ans+1
End
ClrHome
sub("WIN!░░",1+4not(C),4 //2 spaces
[/color]
Not that I support this.
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bananaman Indestructible
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Posted: 09 Jun 2006 08:38:04 am Post subject: |
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How about whack a mole, with like 16 holes, and you use the bottom right 16 buttons on the calc. |
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Rhynomite
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Posted: 09 Jun 2006 03:54:03 pm Post subject: |
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It would be a lot easier if there were 9 holes and you use the number keys.
I'll add it to the list. |
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 09 Jun 2006 07:58:47 pm Post subject: |
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How'z about to keep with the school theme will do "sniff" instead "snuff." Gamers use some key input to sniff permanent marker fumes until the character blacks out. C'mon! |
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Rhynomite
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Posted: 28 Jun 2006 04:15:29 pm Post subject: |
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IMO, the best and simplest idea from this previously mentioned site was the "Wario Whirled" one. After we have 20 microgame ideas, someone will have to ask jvd for the source code, and (hopefully) DigiTan will be able to start adding each game into the program. |
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voodoo721
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Posted: 08 Sep 2006 11:25:31 pm Post subject: |
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While I hope this project is still being worked on, I was wondering if you would consider turning this into just a minigame pack? i've never made a calculator game so i really have no room to talk here, so i dont want to waste space but if there is anyone that wants to try to make this, i do have alot of ideas
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 09 Sep 2006 09:45:28 pm Post subject: |
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It's mostly on hold for now until I get the whole app programming thing going. Since it's my first app, I'll have to things should speed up a little once I get that first build going. The good news is all the no-stub code works. Of now, there's already code for sprite drawing and a few other effects. At this point, all the minigames will come in seperate execuables so there's really no limit to the number of minigames. |
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Rhynomite
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Posted: 10 Sep 2006 10:49:04 am Post subject: |
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For Whack-A-Mole, you might ask the author(s) of this program if you can use Wak-A-Goomba's source in Wario Ware (it's only 1k). And also, which calcs are you planning to releasing this game for besides 83+? |
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