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Brazucs I have no idea what my avatar is.
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Posted: 17 Apr 2004 04:59:19 pm Post subject: |
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Press
[MODE]
[ALPHA]
S
This'll get you to the "Self-Test" screen. Press "On" then archive all your stuff and try this.
On the Self-Test Screen, press [ENTER]. It will say, "START?". Press [ENTER] once more.
Then, it should give you a 5-digit number, however, if you are using VTI, it will say, "ID FAIL". Press [ENTER]
It will then start counting from 0 on.... with long breaks between each number.
If you press the [ON], it will show a weird screen! Press [ENTER] a few times and it will show you a full screen, then an empty screen, then a "grayscale" screen, then a horizontally stripped screen, then a verticaly stripped screen, then a blue screen. The test will then be ceased.
Press [ON] twice and the RAM will clear.
What is this "Self-Test"?? What is its use and why does the calculator keep counting from 0 to, my guess, infinity. I am running VTI now and I'm on number
400 and the test has not ceased.
My guess is that this is a test that every calc goes through after production. Anyone else got any guesses?? |
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 17 Apr 2004 06:28:52 pm Post subject: |
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This question came up a month or 2 ago. I have a TI-82 that goes: number count -> colums -> darkened screen -> clear screen -> dotted screen -> horizontal bars -> verticle bars -> verticles bars that alternate between black and dark grey -> back to last number shown -> reset. Earlier, someone suggested this was a "factory test" used by TI technicians to verify the hardware before shipping off each calc. It also shows your calc's ROM version number under "Enter Self-Test."
Here something strange... Whenever I do a self-test, I get one verticle column of pixels that refuse to light up in the "dotted screen" and "horizontal bars" tests. This is the only time I've noticed this effect. Does anyone know what this is supposed to mean? |
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Ray Kremer
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DarkerLine ceci n'est pas une |
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Posted: 18 Apr 2004 09:28:16 am Post subject: |
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In VTI it says "ID FAIL" at the beginning. |
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62 52 53 53 Formerly known as 62 52 53 53
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Posted: 18 Apr 2004 10:25:18 am Post subject: |
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and DS has a few references to it. So do we, actually. For example, someone posted it as a suggestion for fixing some calculator problem (I think it wouldn't turn on, but then again, I also seem to remember it being in something about a perpetually blue screen, so it might be both)
It turns every single bit of flash on and off, reading to make sure that the flash actually goes on and off. |
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Jeremiah Walgren General Operations Director
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Posted: 18 Apr 2004 06:44:15 pm Post subject: |
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This function is also a way to pass the time, watching the numbers increment... Not recommended, though.
Quote: Earlier, someone suggested this was a "factory test" used by TI technicians to verify the hardware before shipping off each calc.
I too have heard that it's used by TI technicians to check calculators for various things (hardware problems, etc). |
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Brazucs I have no idea what my avatar is.
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 12:06:32 am Post subject: |
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Jeremiah Walgren wrote: This function is also a way to pass the time, watching the numbers increment... Not recommended, though.
Highest I've gotten was 2039ish. Anyone gotten any higher? |
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JoeImp Enlightened
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 11:57:07 am Post subject: |
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brazucs16 said to archive your stuff, then try it, I've done it before, but I cant remember if it reset all of your memory, or just the ram. Brazucs says to just archive, other places says it wipes everything, which one is it.
[Edit] - DigiTan, what's your avatar from? It looks like the animation of Last Exile, but I haven't seen much of it, so I can't tell for sure.
Imp
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Jeremiah Walgren General Operations Director
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 01:45:55 pm Post subject: |
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I'd make a backup of everything before doing it, if I were you. Just to be on the safe side. As for the highest, I read somewhere that some one got up to 35000 (or around there) before pulling the batteries. (Needed calc for math or something.) |
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DarkerLine ceci n'est pas une |
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 03:02:00 pm Post subject: |
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It wipes the ram if you do it normally, but I think it might get to everything else if left alone for a while. |
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Toksyuryel Crimson Dragon Software
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 03:11:27 pm Post subject: |
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What it does is turn every byte from 0000 to ffff in turn from on to off, checking each time that it's working correctly. After it's done, your calc's memory will be COMPLETELY WIPED. You will need to re-install the OS too. |
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DarkerLine ceci n'est pas une |
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 03:24:02 pm Post subject: |
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So it will count up to 65535 correct? |
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Adm.Wiggin aka Tianon
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 04:10:38 pm Post subject: |
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should...
doesnt it store 1 in the byte, then 0, then moves on? I think I read that somewhere... dunno |
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DigiTan Unregistered HyperCam 2
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 06:26:03 pm Post subject: |
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It's weird that they don't mention self-tests in the user manual. They seem ~sort of useful. I should probably phone TI and ask them what the missing pixels on my calc mean.
Quote: DigiTan, what's your avatar from? It looks like the animation of Last Exile, but I haven't seen much of it, so I can't tell for sure.
Close! It's from episode 19 of Cowboy Bebop. It's in the scene where Doohan and Miles launch the space shuttle (JATO-style ) to rescue Spike. |
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Toksyuryel Crimson Dragon Software
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Posted: 19 Apr 2004 06:35:21 pm Post subject: |
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It's not in the manual because 1) it's not supposed to be used by normal users (just testers) and 2) it WIPES ALL MEMORY. Were it in the manual it'd sure get the attention of people who don't really know what they're doing and before you know it they've accidentially wiped their calc. They'll raise a racket about it and then TI will remove it altogether. |
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62 52 53 53 Formerly known as 62 52 53 53
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Posted: 20 Apr 2004 06:57:14 pm Post subject: |
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I got all the way to the end. It was the only way I could get my calculator to a state where it would turn on. (don't ask, and yes, there are 2 ways of getting it to run.) |
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Jedd 1980 Pong World Champion
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Posted: 20 Apr 2004 08:09:06 pm Post subject: |
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I did this on my calc today just for fun, and completely forgot it clears your Ram. Lucky I had my Basic games backed up, but it deleted Tiny Car! Bummer.
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Madskillz
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Posted: 22 Apr 2004 05:30:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well...I don't know if this has been stated or not, but that "hidden function" you speak of was put in by the makers of the calc. ie Texas Instruments. Duh right...It was never meant to be found out by the public. It is very old, I knew about it since I was in the 7th grade, I am now in the 10th!
It was put in the calc, I believe as a way for the calc. testers to make sure everything was running fine and working good. Thus the # count down and the ram clearing at the end. I can't remeber exactly I found it on a website...like I said in the seventh grade. So don't hold it to me! Go goole it!
I mean there is more to it than that, but it is a simple explanation!
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DarkerLine ceci n'est pas une |
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Posted: 23 Apr 2004 03:49:16 pm Post subject: |
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Cobra wrote: Well...I don't know if this has been stated or not
If you read the topic, you'd of known it has been stated. |
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Newbie
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Posted: 23 Apr 2004 06:29:17 pm Post subject: |
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When I went to it on the SE it said it would clear all your memory. |
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