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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 05:35:27 pm Post subject: |
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If you could embed a battery pack (four AAAs or AAs would do it) in a keyboard and/or mouse, that would work fine. |
Awesome.
Unfortunately the only keyboard and mouse that I will likely have handy when I need them are also used for my laptop, I don't think that I could counter modify my laptop to use a 2.5 jack.
That would be doing more bad than the good of not messing with the calculator.
How does the calculator interface with the mouse/keyboard?
It might be a problem if it is a program that needs to be downloaded from my pc to the calc. because I don't have a cord for that. _________________ "Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as having a wide shot selection..." |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 05:45:19 pm Post subject: |
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I'm afraid that it is indeed a program on the calculator, but you can buy a SilverLink (for all the calculators, it's called the SilverLink because it's silver plastic, not because it's only for the 83+ Silver Edition and 84+ Silver Edition calculators) for <$20. And there's no reason that you can't use the same keyboard/mouse with your laptop and calculator. You'll just want a switch to turn off the internal battery pack when you plug them into your laptop so that you don't fry your laptop's power bus. _________________
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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 05:52:37 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I'll try to order something online.
The problem with my keyboard/mouse is:
The keyboard is a Macro roll-out -- no room for batteries
and the mouse is a USB wireless.
If I could get some mental help (not a psychiatrist, stuff like planning a circuit and where to solder) I'll go to my thrift store, get an old keyboard and mouse and see if it is possible to use the 2.5 mm jack. _________________ "Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as having a wide shot selection..." |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 05:54:52 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely. Go get the mouse/keyboard, open them up and post some pix, and we'll help you work out a component layout and schematic. _________________
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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 09:32:16 pm Post subject: |
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Very Cool.
I have school Monday and Tuesday but the rest of the week is off for ThanksGiving.
Can pics be put on this forum or will I need to use a page on my site?
(uh oh, I have a math test tomorrow. Time to go put the calculator back together ) _________________ "Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as having a wide shot selection..." |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 23 Nov 2008 09:41:35 pm Post subject: |
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| BigBubbaX wrote: | Very Cool.
I have school Monday and Tuesday but the rest of the week is off for ThanksGiving.
Can pics be put on this forum or will I need to use a page on my site?
(uh oh, I have a math test tomorrow. Time to go put the calculator back together ) | Sounds like a plan. It's probably easiest if you upload the pictures to your site or use an image host service like Photobucket, ImageShack, etc. _________________
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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 24 Nov 2008 07:15:27 pm Post subject: |
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I raided the thrift store and found a headset with 2.5 mm jack, and a keyboard that looked like it would work but haven't tested yet.
(I also scored a GameBoy Original, but that doesn't have anything to do with this)
I'll get a picture page up for them soon. _________________ "Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as having a wide shot selection..." |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 07 Jan 2009 08:00:21 pm Post subject: |
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| BigBubbaX wrote: | I raided the thrift store and found a headset with 2.5 mm jack, and a keyboard that looked like it would work but haven't tested yet.
(I also scored a GameBoy Original, but that doesn't have anything to do with this)
I'll get a picture page up for them soon. | So did anything ever happen with this? I was curious if you'd be able to pull this off. _________________
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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 11 Jan 2009 09:55:03 pm Post subject: Opps. Sorry. |
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sorry, I forgot to post back.
Over winter break I was trying to put some blue backlights on the calculator, to see if I could. anyway, I accidentally let a bit of solder on the board and nearly ruined it. To fix the disaster I had to recruit my dad's help.
Long story short, I've been banned from my soldering iron for messing with a $100 calculator. Sorry, maybe once I get it back I'll try again. _________________ "Don't think of it as being outnumbered, think of it as having a wide shot selection..." |
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KermMartian

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Posted: 11 Jan 2009 10:52:14 pm Post subject: |
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Aww, sorry to hear that. I hope that yiu regain use of it soon so I can see what you do with this project. _________________
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Xeno_Cre8or

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Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 343 Location: Earth. Maybe...
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 02:37:45 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is a huge necropost, but is it possible to stick a backlight behind the screen of an 84+? And have the backlight turn on when the calc does?
I mean, if I send Kerm my 84, could he do it? _________________
calcs: 84+ 2.42 DCS6.2 and Emu84+SE 2.53MP with DCS7.0 |
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GloryMXE7

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Joined: 26 Oct 2009 Posts: 40 Location: somewhere so secret even i dont know it exists
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 02:40:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'm confused, why would you need a back light? or are we talking theoretically? _________________ "The Players tried to take the field, The Marching band refused to yield"
Projects
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--progress:99% waiting for time
-an unannounced project
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Xeno_Cre8or

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Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 343 Location: Earth. Maybe...
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 03:04:28 pm Post subject: |
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| GloryMXE7 wrote: | | I'm confused, why would you need a back light? or are we talking theoretically? |
So I can program in the dark without turning on the light. this is not theoretical. When I buy me SE, I'll send Kerm it (if he agrees to backlight it), he'll give it a backlight and an orange paint job to the grey parts (so, not the custom faceplate) and mabye double RAM(is that possible?), and when I get it back I'll give my 84-non-SE to my bro. _________________
calcs: 84+ 2.42 DCS6.2 and Emu84+SE 2.53MP with DCS7.0 |
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Weregoose

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Joined: 23 Oct 2009 Posts: 463
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swivelgames
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Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 2345 Location: On the planet called Earth
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 04:54:09 pm Post subject: |
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Xeno: Be prepared. I'm sure Kerm's next post will be something like: | Quote: | How much are we talkin  |
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Ultimate Dev'r

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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 05:08:11 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, you can backlight a calc with an EL panel (don't waste your time using LEDs and plexiglas)
Paint your calc with vinyl dye and use painter's tape to cover up the text
RAM expansion wouldn't be worth it on a TI-84+SE _________________
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 05:16:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Xeno_Cre8or wrote: | I know this is a huge necropost, but is it possible to stick a backlight behind the screen of an 84+? And have the backlight turn on when the calc does?
I mean, if I send Kerm my 84, could he do it? |
I refer you to this:
| http://www.cemetech.net/projects/ee/ucalc2/ wrote: | 6. FAQ
Will you post more detailed steps on how to do this? Can you do it for me if I send my calculator to you?
I'd be happy to answer more specific questions on the construction, but it varies by person exactly how you'd want to go about this. And no, I won't do it for you if you send me your calculator. |
Ultimate Dev'r, one of the main problems with EL panels is that the prongs most panels use stick out the side of the calc; Michael Vincent and others have tried this before. However, I have sitting in my inbox some PDFs of how to use EL *wire* to *frontlight* the calculator (from within), with some rather excellent results. I'll try to post them up soon. _________________
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Xeno_Cre8or

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Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Posts: 343 Location: Earth. Maybe...
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 05:51:16 pm Post subject: |
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| swivelgames wrote: | Xeno: Be prepared. I'm sure Kerm's next post will be something like: | Quote: | How much are we talkin  |
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I could do any reasonable amount, in $20 monthly installments.
| KermMartian wrote: | | Xeno_Cre8or wrote: | I know this is a huge necropost, but is it possible to stick a backlight behind the screen of an 84+? And have the backlight turn on when the calc does?
I mean, if I send Kerm my 84, could he do it? |
I refer you to this:
| http://www.cemetech.net/projects/ee/ucalc2/ wrote: | 6. FAQ
Will you post more detailed steps on how to do this? Can you do it for me if I send my calculator to you?
I'd be happy to answer more specific questions on the construction, but it varies by person exactly how you'd want to go about this. And no, I won't do it for you if you send me your calculator. |
Ultimate Dev'r, one of the main problems with EL panels is that the prongs most panels use stick out the side of the calc; Michael Vincent and others have tried this before. However, I have sitting in my inbox some PDFs of how to use EL *wire* to *frontlight* the calculator (from within), with some rather excellent results. I'll try to post them up soon. |
No, no, no. I have shaky fingers, so would be more prone to making a $150-paperweight-making mistake then you. I trust you more than I trust myself when it comes to this sort of thing _________________
calcs: 84+ 2.42 DCS6.2 and Emu84+SE 2.53MP with DCS7.0 |
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BigBubbaX

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Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 23
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Posted: 28 Oct 2009 06:32:28 pm Post subject: Take Two... |
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Sorry about the...um... year delay.
I've gotten everything together again (except that silver-cord-thingy, I'll buy it when I find some money )
The new project details:
-Set up that keyboard
-build a backlight into the screen
-install an MP3 player in the free space
I've got an old Creative Zen Nano 512mb music player that can be sacrificed.
My take on websites has shifted considerably since the old google pages, and I now own a webserver.
That's where the pics will be, once they're up.
Oh, and I got the soldering iron back (well, not really. But I bought a new one... )
If you can offer any suggestions / comments, I'd appreciate it. |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55763 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 29 Oct 2009 12:39:16 am Post subject: |
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Excellent, glad to hear that's you're giving this a try once more. I'm looking forward to the pictures and progress log. _________________
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