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spandiv -- Retired --
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Posted: 04 Mar 2007 11:10:40 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to do a quality job measuring the speed of a command, I think it would be best to test the command on each calculator -- TI-83, TI-83+, TI-83+SE, TI-84+, and TI-84+SE. This way you cover all the bases and everyone is happy. It doesn't matter to me what timing standard you guys want to use, just as long as it's consistently used.  |
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spandiv -- Retired --
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Posted: 06 Mar 2007 01:00:04 am Post subject: |
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When I was going through some of the command pages today, I noticed that text by itself seems to get somewhat monotonous. I also took a look at TI-Freakware's tutorial, and the one thing I really like about his tutorial is that he has calculator screenshots which show commands being used. So, I thought it might be a good idea to include that in the wiki. We could place the image before the command summary at the top of the sidebar. What do you guys think about this? Would it be worth the effort? |
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Harrierfalcon The Raptor of Calcs
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Posted: 06 Mar 2007 07:12:06 am Post subject: |
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I believe it would be valuable to novice programmers. Possibly to more advanced programmers as well. If I get some free time, I'll do it, but do you mean demo screenies like they have in the manual? |
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spandiv -- Retired --
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Posted: 06 Mar 2007 08:13:46 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I think the screenshots like they have in the manual would work. If you get really fancy, you could even do animated screenshots. Whatever you guys thinks works best is fine with me. |
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Harrierfalcon The Raptor of Calcs
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Posted: 06 Mar 2007 06:04:34 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I've got PindurTI working properly, I could help a little. I'll make a few and PM them, just not now. I have to go to a piano lesson soon... |
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Posted: 17 Mar 2007 05:30:54 pm Post subject: |
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burr wrote: When I was going through some of the command pages today, I noticed that text by itself seems to get somewhat monotonous. I also took a look at TI-Freakware's tutorial, and the one thing I really like about his tutorial is that he has calculator screenshots which show commands being used. So, I thought it might be a good idea to include that in the wiki. We could place the image before the command summary at the top of the sidebar. What do you guys think about this? Would it be worth the effort?
[post="98385"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Right now I'm working on making screenshots for the whole catalog. When I'm done I'll post them to this topic in a zip file, and everyone who makes a new command page can use them. They'll be still images, but I can do animated ones too, and I might if I think a command needs/deserves it. |
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Harrierfalcon The Raptor of Calcs
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Posted: 17 Mar 2007 06:02:44 pm Post subject: |
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The entire catalog?
Commands that deserve it? How about seq( ? (or maybe binomcdf( ? ). |
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Posted: 17 Mar 2007 06:05:57 pm Post subject: |
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seq( can be adequately demonstrated with a still image. Commands that are used in programs, on the other hand, might not be so fortunate. The ones that I've been forced to use animated images so far were DiagnosticOn and DiagnosticOff, and I have doubts about several more.
Edit: I've got midway through the P's, out for today. So far I have animated versions of the program-only commands (with still equivalents), and several commands are animated only because I didn't know how to show them in another way. I also skipped several finance commands because I don't know what they do (the ones I did understand, I made screenshots of).
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Posted: 18 Mar 2007 02:45:16 pm Post subject: |
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I'm done! Screenshots are in attached file. I skipped some commands because I couldn't think of a way to make screenshots of them, and most finance commands because I don't know what they do, but 99% of them are done.
Edit: updated several months later to include the updates that alexrudd will add further down in the topic... this feels like time travel. spiffy.
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luby I want to go back to Philmont!!
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Posted: 18 Mar 2007 02:52:40 pm Post subject: |
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They look great. Is there going to be an explanation of what they are use for? mostly those first few that have to do with standard deviation. |
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Posted: 18 Mar 2007 03:01:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, yeah - that's what the rest of the page will be for. |
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alexrudd pm me if you read this
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Posted: 18 Mar 2007 06:01:31 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa! You went through for every single command? Nice work. I can see the time it took you.
I just tested it now. Looks great.
EDIT: Got rid of that pesky frame at the end, and optimized the file to 50% of its size.
EDIT: Did the same for all the animated ones. See attached zip. Tell me if I missed any.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2007 03:59:59 pm Post subject: |
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Unless my zip software is misleading me, you're missing all of the images past the letter L.
Also, in Opera, the screenshot doesn't appear to fit onto the sidebar - it goes off the right edge. Can any HTML gurus here tell what's up with that? |
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spandiv -- Retired --
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Posted: 19 Mar 2007 05:35:42 pm Post subject: |
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You did an awesome job with the images! They look very nice. The image flowing out of the sidebar is actually what is supposed to happen. To correct that all you need to do is increase the width of the sidebar; I just set the width of the sidebar to 16em. It should work fine now. |
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alexrudd pm me if you read this
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Posted: 19 Mar 2007 07:47:30 pm Post subject: |
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DarkerLine wrote: Unless my zip software is misleading me, you're missing all of the images past the letter L. [post="99169"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Erm, no it's right. I'm not sure why. I'll post the rest when I get the chance. (read: switch to my other computer)
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luby I want to go back to Philmont!!
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Posted: 19 Mar 2007 07:52:18 pm Post subject: |
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I count 18 in alexrudd's zip and 268 in Darkerline's. I think a few got eaten. |
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Posted: 20 Mar 2007 04:59:51 pm Post subject: |
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He was only fixing the animated images, the still ones were fine already. |
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spandiv -- Retired --
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Posted: 22 Mar 2007 12:17:11 am Post subject: |
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I was looking at the If command page today and noticed that there was no mention of Boolean conditionals. I added a brief paragraph myself just so there was something, but I was wondering whether you guys wanted to include that information on the If command page or give it a page of its own? The Boolean logic and operators optimizations on the optimization page would probably be the extent of the Boolean content that would be included. |
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Posted: 23 Mar 2007 04:41:37 pm Post subject: |
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Don't we already have a page or at least a section on that? If so, I'd write a short paragraph on it, then link to the other page. |
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alexrudd pm me if you read this
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Posted: 24 Mar 2007 03:18:40 pm Post subject: |
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As promised, this should be the rest of the animations. |
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