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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 09 Aug 2006 09:55:42 am    Post subject:

As the spam in the uti shirt topic shows, the bots seem to simply follow the link in the news announcement at the top of the page. Now, since they don't have eyes but file handles to the index URL, I suggest a trap like the following:

1) Locate html for news announcement.

2) Copy it.

3) Modify the copy to be an invisible box (div, iframe, whatever is best suited) or maybe even commented html with <!--. Commented would be best for the actual human users, but may be scanned past by the bot, I don't know, try things.

4) Modify the invisible copy to link to wherever you want except to an active topic on the forums.

5) Place it directly before the original news announcement html.

example:

Quote:
<!--
<table class="newslink" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr>
  <td><b>Welcome back; your last visit was: <span>Today, 02:32 PM</span></b><br><b>United-TI latest news: </b> <i><a href="http://server/botlogscript.php">Bot Trap Link</a></i></td>
  <td align="right" valign="middle"><form action="http://server/botlogscript.php?searching=1" method="post">
    <input size="30" name="keywords" onfocus="this.value=''" value="Enter words to search..." type="text">

    <input class="button" src="style_images/blueglass2/login-button.gif" type="image">
  </form>  </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>
-->
<table class="newslink" cellspacing="0">
<tbody><tr>
  <td><b>Welcome back; your last visit was: <span>Today, 02:32 PM</span></b><br><b>United-TI latest news: </b> <i><a href="http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?showtopic=5506">UTI Shirt Design Contest</a></i></td>
  <td align="right" valign="middle"><form action="http://www.unitedti.org/index.php?act=Search&amp;CODE=01&amp;forums=all" method="post">
    <input size="30" name="keywords" onfocus="this.value=''" value="Enter words to search..." type="text">

    <input class="button" src="style_images/blueglass2/login-button.gif" type="image">
  </form>  </td>
</tr>
</tbody></table>


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Cure


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Posted: 09 Aug 2006 10:14:11 am    Post subject:

Sounds like a good idea, I just reported a bot in the UTI Shirt Contest topic.
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DigiTan
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Posted: 09 Aug 2006 11:15:09 am    Post subject:

Sounds like a winner to me. Those bots won't know what hit em.

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Newbie


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Posted: 11 Aug 2006 08:02:14 am    Post subject:

If you don't mind me asking what exactly are the bots doing?, becasue I have not seen any posts and you make it sound as though they are spamming the threads. Do they actually leave posts? Also this is an idea but its extreme. If you required the user to login in to view the forums would eliminate the bots completely because they can't crack passwords, thus locked out. But I realize thats extreme and could affect this website.

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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 11 Aug 2006 08:50:56 am    Post subject:

They create an account and log in to post spam, as guest posting is disabled.

Is there any chance this can be tested and or implemented?
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Newbie


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Posted: 11 Aug 2006 08:59:42 am    Post subject:

I've never seen spam from them. I guess its all deleted before I see it. Anyway I'm sure some of the higher ups on this site will let you test it. I'm looking forward to see if you idea works. I mean its worth a try, its better than sitting here and doing nothing.

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Rezek
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Posted: 11 Aug 2006 04:22:36 pm    Post subject:

I'm not sure I understand, most spiders (bots) don't crawl commented stuff anyways.
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skier


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Joined: 13 May 2006
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Posted: 12 Aug 2006 11:26:46 am    Post subject:

If it works you shouldnt make the thread invisible, it would be fun to see the posts in there.
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Rezek
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Posted: 12 Aug 2006 01:12:06 pm    Post subject:

Yes, and let the bots do exactly what they want to do, right?
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alexrudd
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Posted: 13 Aug 2006 01:16:42 pm    Post subject:

Newbie wrote:
I've never seen spam from them. I guess its all deleted before I see it. Anyway I'm sure some of the higher ups on this site will let you test it. [post="86108"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
I guess the moderators are just too fast for you to see it, which can only be a good thing. However, there are still spambots around - I just deleted another a few minutes ago.
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DJ Omnimaga
http://i-lost-the-ga.me


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Posted: 13 Aug 2006 02:39:54 pm    Post subject:

yea I saw in ALienCC thread its the same spambot that spammed Omnimaga 3 days ago

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Newbie


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Posted: 13 Aug 2006 08:31:45 pm    Post subject:

alexrudd wrote:
Newbie wrote:
I've never seen spam from them. I guess its all deleted before I see it. Anyway I'm sure some of the higher ups on this site will let you test it. [post="86108"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
I guess the moderators are just too fast for you to see it, which can only be a good thing. However, there are still spambots around - I just deleted another a few minutes ago.
[post="86171"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]


I'm curious. Whats in the messages they leave? Advertisements?
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DJ Omnimaga
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Posted: 13 Aug 2006 08:35:43 pm    Post subject:

yes they post link to their website to get higher google ranking. In some case those links leads to pharmacy or porno websites
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 06 Sep 2006 06:37:59 pm    Post subject:

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DigiTan
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Posted: 06 Sep 2006 07:04:48 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, I know what you mean. I still like the idea.
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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 07 Sep 2006 06:13:27 am    Post subject:

I'll even offer to implement and test this for you.
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Newbie


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Posted: 28 Sep 2006 07:14:25 pm    Post subject:

I suggest we attempt Arcanes idea. The worst that could happen is it doesn't work. I mean he's offering to do all the work, yah can't lose. This topic was started a long time ago and I don't think anything else has been atempted unless ACC has done some stuff behind the scenes. All I'm saying is its worth a shot.
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DarkerLine
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Posted: 28 Sep 2006 07:36:08 pm    Post subject:

I'm all up for it, but we need either [s]Jbirk[/s] NETWiz or AlienCC to put the HTML up there since I can't. And the reason this hasn't been done yet is that AlienCC has been away and NETWiz, well... isn't around all that often.

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Newbie


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Posted: 28 Sep 2006 07:44:04 pm    Post subject:

Man, I can't believe I never realized Jbirk changed his name to NETWiz. I thought he was a new member. Very Happy :D

But I guess with that post count that doesn't make since. He still response to the name Jbirk anyway.


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Arcane Wizard
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Posted: 29 Sep 2006 08:54:11 am    Post subject:

Anyone with access to the Admin Panel should be able to modify the HTML templates, if I recall correctly.
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