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IntrnalDsK


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Posted: 09 Jul 2003 10:07:27 am    Post subject:

good idea Smile
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Darth Android
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Posted: 09 Jul 2003 11:29:14 am    Post subject:

im probably gonna move this to asm or projects, but i gonna wait to see where this really needs to go.
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 09 Jul 2003 04:23:26 pm    Post subject:

i think asm... it is about making an asm prgm... and no one will get around to it very soon im afraid...
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JesusFreak
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Posted: 26 Jul 2003 01:28:47 am    Post subject:

ever think of making an ASM prgm that translate Basic into a ASM prgm?

Also about the plane, why no a wireless link so you and a friend can play across the room ranther than with a cord that is like 2 inches long (i know it is longer)
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Justin W.
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Posted: 26 Jul 2003 01:37:10 am    Post subject:

Sorry to burst your bubble Jesusfreak but converting an basic program into assembly is pointless. They are two very different languages. A single command in basic would take several in asm thus leaving you with a program 4 to 5 times the size of the original, if not more. The only way to dodge that obstacle is to start programming asm.
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Darth Android
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Posted: 26 Jul 2003 07:41:10 am    Post subject:

i have moved this to the asm forum.
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NETWizz
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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 12:44:35 am    Post subject:

Adm.Wiggin wrote:
so, has anyone EVER (*&% - BESIDES TI - %&*) made a working program editor in assembly?

Yes,

Jhona C made one for the 86 entitled "ATE"

Advanced Text Editor
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 12:47:29 pm    Post subject:

oh, cool! i wish we could port it! that would be awesome! we could add hotkeys Smile
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Tyraniek


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Posted: 28 Jul 2003 12:56:45 pm    Post subject:

And what would be "Advanced" in this Text Editor apart Hot Keys ?
well, I must admit that I don't find the utility of another Basic Editor....
anyway, it must be a quite difficult project
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IntrnalDsK


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Posted: 02 Aug 2003 11:20:51 pm    Post subject:

It would be, but then you could make the editor use small font, so you can see more of the basic program at one time, thus making it "Advanced", and easier to program with. Laughing
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Adm.Wiggin
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Posted: 12 Aug 2003 10:41:41 am    Post subject:

yes, but it is still just an idea... so, if any of u want to try and learn how to do it, then go for it!
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jonorossi


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Posted: 31 Aug 2003 12:28:41 am    Post subject:

Hello

I have started making a windows program that converts basic to asm. I agree that the asm programs will be bigger in size but think about this idea.

If you have a BASIC program with this code:

Code:
ClrHome

My program would convert it to:

Code:
B_CALL(_ClrLCDFull)

But if you were to write that program in asm from the beginning what would it look like:

Code:
B_CALL(_ClrLCDFull)


So if a program was converted it would look the same and be the same size as the ones you hand code in asm

If you disagree then please express you thoughts

Jono
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NETWizz
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Posted: 31 Aug 2003 02:23:55 am    Post subject:

After doing that, you will find out that bcall(_clearlcdfull) is not the same as clrhome.

Basically, clrhome is

bcall(_homeup)
bcall(_clearlcdfull)
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62 52 53 53
Formerly known as 62 52 53 53


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Posted: 31 Aug 2003 07:55:52 am    Post subject:

well, it's not THAT much bigger than clearhome
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Tyraniek


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Posted: 31 Aug 2003 10:34:25 am    Post subject:

Once again, I say that what you're trying to do is a good think jonorossi. I hope you'll manage !
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jonorossi


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Posted: 01 Sep 2003 06:29:52 am    Post subject:

I have already found a bug in the conversion process i didn't have the _homeup rom call. thanks for that.

If you want to help me make all the conversions then please tell me because i don't have heaps of time to work out the conversions and them test them all. If you want to help me (please) then just post here or send me an email.

Thanks, Jono
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Tyraniek


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Posted: 01 Sep 2003 09:16:53 am    Post subject:

I really find this project interesting, but I cannot do all the project I'd like to do, because I don't have time enough either... (asm programming, websites etc.).
Sorry, it's just a matter of time :-/
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jonorossi


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Posted: 02 Sep 2003 06:10:16 am    Post subject:

I am not expecting anyone to spend heaps of time on it

i am going to make a few web pages and if you get some free time or found some cool thing you can do in asm

Jono

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