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Iambian
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Well, here we go. This is a place where people can let me know what kind of features might be useful for a project such as this one. Keep in mind that features for individual builds can be enabled or disabled so only the features the user needs will be included in the binary that he or she will create.
Note that this post will be edited as features are implemented and new ideas are provided.
Anyway, the current features are as follows, in no particular order:
1. Support of program variables (PROG) as well as application variables (APPVAR), henceforth known as "file"
2. Performing any function with hidden variables using their unhidden name
3. Reading lines from a file from either RAM or archive
4. Inserting or deleting lines from a RAM-resident file
5. Toggling of the following parameters of a file: hidden/unhidden, archive/unarchived, locked/unlocked.
6. Delete file.
7. Indexing and ungrouping of grouped files.
The following features are currently on the "drawing board" :
1. Toggling between APPVAR and PROG file types (should be insanely easy to do)
2. Renaming files
3. Multi-line copying
4. Entire program copying
5. Directly copying a line from one program to another
6. Hex-binary reading/writing from the Nth byte in source/destination.
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EDIT: For those who are viewing this topic for the very first time, the discussion has turned toward the FlashAPP version, which is, save for the size of a page (16K), the application is unrestricted in the memory that it uses, and is far faster than just about any homescreen-run ASM program could ever be, if for the simple fact that there's no memory relocation going on when the application is called.
As far as this topic goes, I'm trying to find *useful* ways to fill up the 16K of space I'm preallocated. I do not intend on making this a multi-page application, so the question of getting more space is completely out.
Most recent versions of the build will be kept in the "Current Progress" thread as they are discussed. If you can, download the file and view its ReadME file AND ensure that you understand what it's saying. In addition, READ THE ENTIRE TOPIC before you post about what features you want to add.
Thank you.
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Harrierfalcon
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In PyroEdit 4.0, there's a couple of programs called prgmPRGM2STR and prgmSTR2PRGM. The former takes the program's name in Ans and returns the entire program as a string in Ans, complete with newline tokens that behave weirdly and appear as spaces. The latter takes the same string in Ans and takes the program name in Str7 and overwrites/creates a program with that name with the code from Ans.
It'd be nice to have those features in Celtic III, but not necessary.
Considering the amount of feature you have, why don't you distribute the all-inclusive binary and the source, and in the source have a bunch of definitions that either include or exclude certain features  .
EDIT: To make your it a bit easier, if you decide to do this, I disassembled the programs.
PRGM2STR.z80
Code:
bcall(_AnsName)
rst 10h
and 1Fh
jr z, Label1
di
push de
exx
pop de
ld hl, OP1
ld (hl), 05h
inc hl
ex de, hl
ld c, (hl)
inc hl
ld b, (hl)
inc hl
ldir
exx
ei
bcall(_DelVar)
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
ret c
push bc
ex de, hl
ld a, b
or a
jr z, Label2
ld b, 00h
add hl, bc
ld c, 0Ah
add hl, bc
pop bc
push bc
push hl
bcall(_LoadDEIndPaged)
Label3:
bcall(_AnsName)
ex de, hl
push hl
bcall(_CreateStrng)
pop bc
pop hl
pop af
inc bc
inc bc
bcall(_FlashToRam)
ret
Label2:
push hl
bcall(04009h)
ex de, hl
jr Label3
Label1:
push de
ld hl, (08568h)
ld h, a
bcall(_SetXXXXOP2)
ld hl, OP2
ld bc, 0009h
pop de
ldir
ret
ld b, l
; Disassembled by Jimmy Conner - timagic@yahoo.com
; @ 9/22/2007 10:43:48 PM
; Disassembler v1.7
; Total Opcodes: 60
; Total Data: 0
; Z80 AC - z80.us.fornax.com
; Personal - www.timagic.cjb.net
.end
end
STR2PRGM.z80
Code:
.org 9D93h
ld hl, Str1
rst 20h
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
ld c, 01h
jr c, Label1
ld a, b
or a
ld c, 02h
jr nz, Label1
ex de, hl
ld c, (hl)
inc hl
ld b, (hl)
inc hl
ld de, 08001h
ld a, 05h
ld (ramStart), a
ldir
xor a
ld (de), a
bcall(_AnsName)
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
ld a, (hl)
cp 04h
ret nz
ex de, hl
ld c, (hl)
inc hl
ld b, (hl)
push bc
ld hl, ramStart
rst 20h
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
jr c, Label2
bcall(_DelVarArc)
ld hl, ramStart
rst 20h
Label2:
pop hl
push hl
bcall(_CreateProg)
inc de
inc de
push de
bcall(_AnsName)
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
ex de, hl
inc hl
inc hl
pop de
pop bc
ldir
Label1:
ld a, c
bcall(_SetXXOP1)
bcall(_StoAns)
ret
inc b
xor d
Str1:
.db 06h, 00h, 1Ah
; Disassembled by Jimmy Conner - timagic@yahoo.com
; @ 9/22/2007 10:43:51 PM
; Disassembler v1.7
; Total Opcodes: 57
; Total Data: 3
; Z80 AC - z80.us.fornax.com
; Personal - www.timagic.cjb.net
.end
end
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Iambian
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Harrierfalcon wrote: In PyroEdit 4.0, there's a couple of programs called prgmPRGM2STR and prgmSTR2PRGM. The former takes the program's name in Ans and returns the entire program as a string in Ans, complete with newline tokens that behave weirdly and appear as spaces. The latter takes the same string in Ans and takes the program name in Str7 and overwrites/creates a program with that name with the code from Ans.
It'd be nice to have those features in Celtic III, but not necessary.
Considering the amount of feature you have, why don't you distribute the all-inclusive binary and the source, and in the source have a bunch of definitions that either include or exclude certain features .
[post="113049"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
1. I heard of this one before. vuurrobin mentioned something about it relating back to one your own posts, so I thought about it and I figured it would be relatively easy. All I really have to do is call up a subroutine and run a copy until EOF is reached. That's for copying a program to a string. I would expect the user to use the standard line writing routine to paste that information into a program.
2. Source is always included, and those definitions already exist. Perhaps I should provide links to those project files, eh?
Anyway, I've taken note of your suggestion. Thanks! |
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calc84maniac
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Harrierfalcon wrote: PRGM2STR.z80
Code: bcall(_AnsName)
rst 10h
and 1Fh
jr z, Label1
di
push de
exx
pop de
ld hl, OP1
ld (hl), 05h
inc hl
ex de, hl
ld c, (hl)
inc hl
ld b, (hl)
inc hl
ldir
exx
ei
bcall(_DelVar)
bcall(_ChkFindSym)
ret c
push bc
ex de, hl
ld a, b
or a
jr z, Label2
ld b, 00h
add hl, bc
ld c, 0Ah
add hl, bc
pop bc
push bc
push hl
bcall(_LoadDEIndPaged)
Label3:
bcall(_AnsName)
ex de, hl
push hl
bcall(_CreateStrng)
pop bc
pop hl
pop af
inc bc
inc bc
bcall(_FlashToRam)
ret
Label2:
push hl
bcall(04009h)
ex de, hl
jr Label3
Label1:
push de
ld hl, (08568h)
ld h, a
bcall(_SetXXXXOP2)
ld hl, OP2
ld bc, 0009h
pop de
ldir
ret
ld b, l
; Disassembled by Jimmy Conner - timagic@yahoo.com
; @ 9/22/2007 10:43:48 PM
; Disassembler v1.7
; Total Opcodes: 60
; Total Data: 0
; Z80 AC - z80.us.fornax.com
; Personal - www.timagic.cjb.net
.end
end
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That's actually a renamed version of ZASSEMB1.  I believe I gave Demon permission to use it, though. |
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Harrierfalcon
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I know--I'd accidentally pressed [ON] while I was compiling something with OTBP, and out of curiousity, I peeked at all the strings. I saw one containing ALL the equates, so I started toying around with some of your ASM subprograms. I found out about ZASSEMB1, and started using it in conjunction with CelticII, but then I tried out PyroEdit and stumbled upon a program that writes it back. How nice !
Oh, and Iambian? The mass-ungroup feature of CelticIII isn't working for me...(I have the most recent Alpha) |
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vuurrobin
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besides de features I posted here, I have some more.
function 11, the find prog/appvar to work with groups,
and to work without a search string so it will output a list of all programs/appvars/groups.
if I can come with anymore ideas, I'll post them. |
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thornahawk
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I have a thought: how about a function that takes whatever is in Ans (or better, takes any possible variable as argument) and returns a numeric code that signifies what kind of variable is it (real, complex, list, matrix, string, etc.)?
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Iambian
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thornahawk wrote: I have a thought: how about a function that takes whatever is in Ans (or better, takes any possible variable as argument) and returns a numeric code that signifies what kind of variable is it (real, complex, list, matrix, string, etc.)?
thornahawk
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For the Ans variable, that would be pretty easy. The code could possibly be something like this:
Code:
bcall(_RclAns)
ld a,(Op1)
bcall(_SetXXOp1)
bcall(_StoAns)
ret
Where the Ans variable would now contain a numeric code that is according to its type. Some of these codes would be as follows:
0 = Real
1 = list
2 = Matrix
3 = equation
4 = string
12 = complex
13 = complex list
Is this the kind of feature you're asking for?
Implementing this should take very little space in the program. Say, 12 bytes for the code itself, and four bytes for the entry at the start of the program. A total of 16 bytes for this little feature. Would it be a useful 16 bytes, though? |
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Harrierfalcon
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Oh yeah...that reminds me. What about a function that turns whatever type of variable that's in Ans into a string? Like lists, matrices, real variables, etc. ? It might get complicated, but it'll be very useful...
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| That's essentially the same as finding the type of expr(Ans, shouldn't need any new code. |
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magicdanw
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| I think Harrierfalcon meant a function that converts the data in Ans to a string, like a number to string routine, only it would work with all data types. Kind of like Java's toString() method. So, a list would make it return "{1,2,3)" and a number would return "42". (Harrierfalcon, if I misunderstood your meaning, please correct me.) |
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Harrierfalcon
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| No, you didn't. I phrased oddly, I'll fix that. |
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Iambian
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Harrierfalcon wrote: Oh yeah...that reminds me. What about a function that turns whatever type of variable that's in Ans into a string? Like lists, matrices, real variables, etc. ? It might get complicated, but it'll be very useful...
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If I understand this correctly, you're asking for an overglorified (and correctly working) version of the list to string util that I said I'd include into the Celtic III project? If that is the case, then the hardest part would be simply to convert each individual element in each list, matrix, or variable into a string and then calculate additional overhead (i.e. displaying the square braces for the matrices and the brackets for the lists).
For this to work properly, I'd have to add in the possibility of displaying these strings in scientific notation and so forth. Should I have the routine read the current mode settings and apply them (i.e. Float vs Fix N, where N is some number between 0 and 9)?
And... I fail to see what purpose this has other than a way to insert the data back into a program file. Is this the best reason, or are there others?
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magicdanw
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Iambian, I had an idea about how to do the data to string method. It's a bit roundabout, but it might work. You back up what's on the screen, and use OutputExpr or FormDisp to display the variable's contents. Then, you read the string out of textShadow and copy the original display back. I guess you'd have to test it out and see if the routine will restore the display fast enough to be unnoticeable
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Harrierfalcon
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| For, perhaps, data storage within a program. It's wouldn't be a very widely used function, but seeing as how you can include/exclude features, I thought it might be something useful for Celtic's features. |
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Iambian wrote: Harrierfalcon wrote: Oh yeah...that reminds me. What about a function that turns whatever type of variable that's in Ans into a string? Like lists, matrices, real variables, etc. ? It might get complicated, but it'll be very useful...
[post="114079"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
If I understand this correctly, you're asking for an overglorified (and correctly working) version of the list to string util that I said I'd include into the Celtic III project? If that is the case, then the hardest part would be simply to convert each individual element in each list, matrix, or variable into a string and then calculate additional overhead (i.e. displaying the square braces for the matrices and the brackets for the lists).
magicdanw wrote: Iambian, I had an idea about how to do the data to string method. It's a bit roundabout, but it might work. You back up what's on the screen, and use OutputExpr or FormDisp to display the variable's contents. Then, you read the string out of textShadow and copy the original display back. I guess you'd have to test it out and see if the routine will restore the display fast enough to be unnoticeable
[post="114097"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] This wouldn't work for large variables that won't fit on the screen. |
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DarkerLine wrote: Iambian wrote: Harrierfalcon wrote: Oh yeah...that reminds me. What about a function that turns whatever type of variable that's in Ans into a string? Like lists, matrices, real variables, etc. ? It might get complicated, but it'll be very useful...
[post="114079"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
If I understand this correctly, you're asking for an overglorified (and correctly working) version of the list to string util that I said I'd include into the Celtic III project? If that is the case, then the hardest part would be simply to convert each individual element in each list, matrix, or variable into a string and then calculate additional overhead (i.e. displaying the square braces for the matrices and the brackets for the lists).
magicdanw wrote: Iambian, I had an idea about how to do the data to string method. It's a bit roundabout, but it might work. You back up what's on the screen, and use OutputExpr or FormDisp to display the variable's contents. Then, you read the string out of textShadow and copy the original display back. I guess you'd have to test it out and see if the routine will restore the display fast enough to be unnoticeable
[post="114097"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] This wouldn't work for large variables that won't fit on the screen.
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I want that variable to string function too. I needed that last night and now I have to rewrite a whole entire 
part of the generator program I was working on 'cause I didn't plan it out and forgot there was no way to do that yet.
[ fumes ]
Yeah, I should plan stuff next time.
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magicdanw
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DarkerLine wrote: Iambian wrote: Harrierfalcon wrote: Oh yeah...that reminds me. What about a function that turns whatever type of variable that's in Ans into a string? Like lists, matrices, real variables, etc. ? It might get complicated, but it'll be very useful...
[post="114079"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
If I understand this correctly, you're asking for an overglorified (and correctly working) version of the list to string util that I said I'd include into the Celtic III project? If that is the case, then the hardest part would be simply to convert each individual element in each list, matrix, or variable into a string and then calculate additional overhead (i.e. displaying the square braces for the matrices and the brackets for the lists).
magicdanw wrote: Iambian, I had an idea about how to do the data to string method. It's a bit roundabout, but it might work. You back up what's on the screen, and use OutputExpr or FormDisp to display the variable's contents. Then, you read the string out of textShadow and copy the original display back. I guess you'd have to test it out and see if the routine will restore the display fast enough to be unnoticeable
[post="114097"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] This wouldn't work for large variables that won't fit on the screen.
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Well, when text is output to the screen, if it's bigger than 16 characters I think the entire string is written to fmtString (97B1h). I haven't checked myself, but WikiTI seems to suggest that in its Homescreen Hook documentation. |
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calc84maniac
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Iambian wrote: thornahawk wrote: I have a thought: how about a function that takes whatever is in Ans (or better, takes any possible variable as argument) and returns a numeric code that signifies what kind of variable is it (real, complex, list, matrix, string, etc.)?
thornahawk
[post="114068"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post]
For the Ans variable, that would be pretty easy. The code could possibly be something like this:
Code: bcall(_RclAns)
ld a,(Op1)
bcall(_SetXXOp1)
bcall(_StoAns)
ret
Where the Ans variable would now contain a numeric code that is according to its type. Some of these codes would be as follows:
0 = Real
1 = list
2 = Matrix
3 = equation
4 = string
12 = complex
13 = complex list
Is this the kind of feature you're asking for?
Implementing this should take very little space in the program. Say, 12 bytes for the code itself, and four bytes for the entry at the start of the program. A total of 16 bytes for this little feature. Would it be a useful 16 bytes, though?
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That destroys Ans, though. Why not just return the value in the function instead? |
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Iambian
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calc84maniac wrote: (... lots of quoted material. See previous post...)
That destroys Ans, though. Why not just return the value in the function instead?
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You're right about one thing. I could just skip _StoAns, but I'd need a place to store the result if this was the non-app version of Celtic III. The THETA variable would be the first choice, since it's expected.
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