In my opinion, games only exploded onto phones due to personal convenience. "Oh, I'm on the train with my phone. And I have a game!" Since then those games have strived to be the best in-class. I won't spend money on games for my iOS device largely for that part: I don't have many periods of down-time with my phone. And when I do it's spent with e-mails and communication, then I'll entertain myself with a 99 cent or two dollar game.

or, as Kerm said, get a something like DS, PSP, GBA, etc you know, something that has BUTTONS and well thought out games (example: Castlevania )

comicIdiot hit it right on the head: Who needs to carry two devices? Chances are you'll have your phone much more often.

I'm not ever going to dispute the fact that something which is designed for a task will be significantly better at said task than something which receives it as a byproduct.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45213777/ns/technology_and_science-security/?GT1=43001#.TrpO3kM81e4

Seems someone who has found 2 iOS security flaws has been denied access to submitting apps to the apple store.

What a wonderful idea. As one commenter put it:

He submitted an application to the App store that exploited those flaws. Apple was justified for every action under their TOS.

I don't care if it's written on the stone tablets of the Ten Commandments, when someone shows you your flaws, you don't ban them for life from ever doing business with you again. Of course it's within their rights, but it's still a a move.

If any of you ever played or followed TBM, you may remember this same thing happening to Kier, developer of TBM(an old Blockland mod), when he showed MoCheeze, developer of RTB(another old Blockland mod), that there was a serious flaw in his mod, later known as the "floating door exploit". Mo fixed the problem without ever revealing that there was one, and Kier was dismissed as a dangerous hacker with a vendetta(despite the fact that he has on multiple occasions directed curious users to his rival mod).

Stop bypassing the censor.

I didn't mean to imply that what he did wasn't exactly the smartest way to go about announcing a problem, or that Apple wasn't within their rights to do what they did. However, maybe Apple should have considered just removing the app and getting the person in on the fun of fixing said leak and seeing if he could find more instead of just kicking him away from developing things further.

The guy can still do business, he just can't benefit from any financial gain as he can still purchase applications. But that's a roundabout way of avoiding the context of your post.

Sure, it sucks. But I'm strongly assuming Apple will reinstate his Developer status once they do an internal investigation. To make an analogy, Police officers are put on (paid) leave when they are being investigated by Internal Affairs. While that's in-house, Apple bans the developer to prevent any more malicious applications until they can get the full understanding. Again, I'm strongly assuming.

Ti freak, I understood where your position was. I just took the liberty to be blunt as I was sitting on a plane posting from my phone, with no idea when we'd depart. As it is now, I'm at my next terminal for another 15 minutes. Again on my phone, I ain't paying' for no Airport Wifi. It was free back home :/

I was about to suggest you just hack your Airport's wifi, then stopped myself when I realized how profoundly bad that idea is...

He's also out $100 despite doing Apple's job for them.



You're strongly assuming something that has zero precedent and goes against everything Apple has done in the last 5 years. Apple sure as hell wasn't planning to reinstate him *OR* do any sort of investigation and everyone here knows it.

Apple hates white hat hackers, they do nothing but publicly point out just how terrible Apple is at security.

despite apple's claim in certian commercials that their security is 1337 compared to Microsoft.

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Exactly. Obscurity ≠ Security. That's why I can't wait for Apple to get a larger chunk of the market. If their users can't figure out PCs, they'll be f****d when they start getting popups for "OS Antivirus 20XX". Then, because they haven't had to really deal with widespread virus attacks before, Apple will struggle to get out fixes and combat the problem.

Actually, Rogueamp posted a video about an OSX rogue on his youtube channel a while ago.

I remember that some rogue programs were fake anti-viruses that appear from accessing some Mac feature, like the store or something of the like.

And, he also agreed on Apples terms. Regarding security, Apple isn't complaining to be entirely hack-proof. White Hat or Black hat, a security threat is still a security threat, and some White Hat hackers have better ways of bringing it to the attention of the those applicable.

Not all white hat hackers publicly announce security flaws. Some e-mail the business, others attend hackathons.

These stories about Apple being bad at security aren't daily, or weekly. Actually not even monthly. If they were as bad as you claim they are, there'd be more stories populating the news arrogates.

That's exactly why it's going to be super bad when they have enough market share to attract significant security threats.

Here's a novel idea: how about we all just accept the fact that they both have advantages and disadvantages. And that we want Microsoft to release the Surface for mass consumption. Then, we could be grateful that we don't have to rely on chromebooks:)!

I don't see how that makes any sense at all. This isn't a Apple vs. Microsoft debate, we're debating over Apple's actions against a white-hat hacker who discovered a security flaw in iOS.

Yes, and every report has indicated they are either shunned by Apple or ignored until they release it publicly and make a PR stink. Compare to MS, which just fixes the issue promptly, or Google, which freaking pays you.



Number of security issues disclosed is irrelevant. The issue is the facepalm inducing nature of Apple's flaws (such as Lion's pitiful "change anyone's password" bug). Also, you are dead wrong about the frequency as well, but since you're such a hardcore fanboy that isn't surprising. Pretty much every version of iOS has had a hole found very quickly - in many cases before it's even launched. How do you think jailbreaking works? You know that website you go to where you swipe to jailbreak your phone? Yeah, that's a *huge* security flaw that's being exploited.

Can't forget about Mozilla, they paid some young kid for finding a bug as well.

Sure, there is that. But no one makes a huge uproar out of that, it's no question why either.