Should I Make Bundles With Multiple Apps And Games So People Don't Need To Download The Games One By One? I Will Make Multiple Bundles, Some For Developers, Some For People Who Want To Have Fun On The Calculator, Some For People Who Want To Have Useful Applications And Features. These Could Be Accessible For Ti-84 Plus Ce For For Now (If People Want Me To Do This), But Later I Will Add It To All Texas Instruments, And More Popular Calculators Like Casio and HP Prime.

That is honestly only something you could/should do with games/programs YOU have made, and entirely up to you if you want your projects distributed in such a fashion.

Yeah But I can add other peoples programs if i have permission to by them right?

I personally will be doing this as some of my programs have multiple of the same dependencies (most of which I’ve written myself). Since most of the future programs will be designed to work in tandem with one another too, it would feel weird to distribute them separately.

If you have written permission to distribute others’ programs, either through a license or special permission, then you can do so. I did it recently with a short email to someone. Funnily enough he replied that he basically doesn’t care because it’s been nearly two decades and he’d forgotten that his program existed.

You could, but then that becomes a problem if they update/upgrade programs, then they also have to have you update/upgrade said files, as well. It ends up being more of a hassle than it's worth. At least, in my own opinion. Because if you don't and disappear, then they start getting emails about bugs that no longer exist in their updated files, but do in yours.

how come no one hasnt thought about making a bundle for everyone to just download, it would be 10x easier for those looking for alot of games, and dont want to waste time

That's where sites like TI-Planet, Cemetech, and ticalc.org come in, but instead of downloading a bundle that contains a lot of games, you pick and choose the individual games you want to download, even though they aren't in a single bundle. I have my own project that exclusively works with TI-84 Plus CE programs, but there was a bug in the program I used to update the programs, so I stopped.

For the programs you wish to bundle together, make sure to include a copy of the licenses with the download. A software license states how you can use it and distribute it, and most calculator programs have a license (if any) that requires redistributing the license with the program. For programs that don't include a license, their license is "All Rights Reserved" by default, meaning you legally don't have the right to do anything with it, but in reality, most people don't care as long as you don't sell it or claim you made it. No matter what, I'd recommend including a link to where you got it from as that implies you haven't created the programs yourself, as well as enabling users to easily find the latest version of the game without having to update the bundle.

I personally prefer scouting out interesting programs and downloading them onto my calculator one-by-one manually. This is partially because my CE has Python which takes up 25% of the Flash storage space so I'm overly pedantic about what I choose to keep on there (for now). Besides that, though, it's just easier to pick and choose what you want for your calculator according to your wants/needs, rather than have someone compile relatively disjointed software together and assume what a group of people would want/need which isn't always correct.

I suppose a bundle could work just fine for interconnected or closely related software, e.g. LibreOffice, or as a sampler for a developer or group of developers' work. If you're compiling anything created by other people into a bundle, please be sure to follow licensing and copyright laws; everyone is talking about that in this thread already, so I won't restate what's already been said.

Primarily because most authors don't give others permission to package and redistribute their work.

For specific projects, a "bundle" of them could only have to include a copy of the complete licenses for the projects involved somewhere easily accessible in the program. Pretty sure with certain licenses that also comes with the necessity of having to provide relevant source code for the included applications/libraries upon request. I'm not an expert on this so take it with a grain of salt.

Although, licenses like the GPLv3 are kind of big (>34KB) in the context of how much the TI can hold. Just the plaintext licenses alone could take up a significant portion of your program size alongside all the similarly large, if not even larger, programs you're including in the bundle. It's probably much more manageable than I'm making it out to be but if it's something like a TI-83 bundle you are going to have a very bad time.

Dear fellow cemetech community, I am deeply sorry for trying to do something when I never thought about the effects, most of them, leading to storage problems. Today I realized I am a complete beginner in learning about how the TI - 84 PLUS CE storage works, and how much storage the licenses would take. I thought making bundles for people would make it easier for them, but I forgot why choosing your own games and apps to download on your calculator was even made, I forgot about why people would want a bundle of games they never choose, even thought I thought it would be helpful. I hope you all know I am very sorry for attempting this project. -TNDLLOFFICIAL

I don't think you need to feel sorry for considering doing this: unlike some other people who've had similar ideas you asked first, which was a wise decision!

As you've discovered, many community members have strong opinions about rehosting others' work. I'd say that tends to be because it feels like you'd be attempting to take credit for others' work, and due to the nature of calculator programming that credit is about the only thing an author gets out of their work.

You're not in the wrong for having an idea and finding that it likely won't be as feasible as you hoped. You haven't infringed on anyone's copyrights and you didn't suggest once that you were intending to knowingly do that. It's okay, just don't worry about it.

If you ever want to include any software I eventually create into a bundle then I personally won't mind all that much because for a lot of licenses and a lot of creators, the most that matters is making sure they get noted for their work (i.e. attribution). Secondarily to this, many authors also wish for projects including their works to be licensed under a similarly permissive license, but the latter is something I feel most calculator programmers do to some extent already with how ubiquitous open-source is here.

At any rate, you're okay. Even if you did go on ahead and infringe on some copyrights, no one here would literally sue you for it. The people here are very patient and respectful and I'm certain they wouldn't be upset at you for making an honest mistake. But what matters is that you choose to ask in the first place, and you listened to everyone's responses, and applied them to yourself. No one is upset at you, if anything you've approached this very maturely.

Yeah, but thet might not particularly like it. TI84CalcWiz and CalcPlex, both made by the same person, host calculator games whose creators have said they didn't want on the site. As of today, he finally included the author's name on the More Information page, but the license and README files are tucked away in a separate link, and only two of the games he reuploaded (FallDown and 1010!) have licenses in that file.

I recommend including the license and README of each program in the same file download as the games themselves, and please make it obvious where you got it from, who made it, and respecting authors' requests to have games removed from your site. The only thing I haven't done is include a link to the forum thread on all of them, but I think sharing a link to the source code is sufficient and I don't want to update them all.