Torque and InstantAction shutting down and selling.

KermMartian · Site Admin (Posts: 64051)

I actually thought that InstantAction was a pretty cool concept; too bad it didn't take off. Sad

I wonder what this means for Freebuild...?

KermMartian · Site Admin (Posts: 64051)

I seriously doubt that. No more Torque means possibly no more engine updates other than the optimizations and fixes that Elfprince and the rest of the Freebuild team can implement themselves, but I don't see why the project would need to stop using the engine.

Kllrnohj · ☢ PH34R |\/|3 (Posts: 8196)

I seriously doubt that. No more Torque means possibly no more engine updates other than the optimizations and fixes that Elfprince and the rest of the Freebuild team can implement themselves, but I don't see why the project would need to stop using the engine.

KermMartian · Site Admin (Posts: 64051)

It would require more or less building the sandboxness, the art and model and vehicle and map assets, and everything else more or less from scratch.

elfprince13 · OVER NINE THOUSAND! (Posts: 11872)

This.

KermMartian · Site Admin (Posts: 64051)

This.

elfprince13 · OVER NINE THOUSAND! (Posts: 11872)

Exactly, and a commercial license for engine modification isn't what's usually meant by the UDK.

Kllrnohj · ☢ PH34R |\/|3 (Posts: 8196)

So? You don't need to alter the engine. I doubt anyone here could really work on the engine anyway.

TheStorm · NOU! (Posts: 2551)

So? You don't need to alter the engine. I doubt anyone here could really work on the engine anyway.

DShiznit · Guru-in-Training (Posts: 3715)

So? You don't need to alter the engine. I doubt anyone here could really work on the engine anyway.

Kllrnohj · ☢ PH34R |\/|3 (Posts: 8196)

There is a huge difference between torque's code complexity/quality and unreal engine 3's. Likewise, there is a difference between hacking on features and actually improving the engine.

DShiznit · Guru-in-Training (Posts: 3715)

There is a huge difference between torque's code complexity/quality and unreal engine 3's. Likewise, there is a difference between hacking on features and actually improving the engine.

Kllrnohj · ☢ PH34R |\/|3 (Posts: 8196)

LDraw appears to just be a file format. You should be able to support new files without altering the engine. Also, LDraw doesn't appear to have been designed with real time gaming in mind. A stand-alone converter might be the better solution.

KermMartian · Site Admin (Posts: 64051)

LDraw appears to just be a file format. You should be able to support new files without altering the engine. Also, LDraw doesn't appear to have been designed with real time gaming in mind. A stand-alone converter might be the better solution.

elfprince13 · OVER NINE THOUSAND! (Posts: 11872)

OpenSceneGraph and Bullet (which I'm also working with) on the other hand are probably an order of magnitude more complex than equivalent components of the Unreal Engine. Certainly OpenSceneGraph is, since it is designed to work with the optimized rendering of geometry databases on the terabyte scale and has clustered rendering capabilities. I could trivially make an LDraw->whatever format Unreal uses converter, but I wouldn't have direct control over the geometry caching mechanisms or the graph structure needed to build and merge models in game. I still haven't seen anything that suggests Unreal is capable of dealing with hundreds of thousands of scene objects or makes use of the newer and more sophisticated culling algorithms I'm planning to make use of.

Also, last I checked, replacing the physics and graphics subsystems of a game engine count as actually improving the engine, and not just hacking on features.