you're just pissing everybody off.

There hasn't been any major updates on TBG for a long time so this is a small notice for the developers.

You... seriously believe people would make something that noone would use? That is a stretch of the imagination. You cannot factor out audience. It is simply impossible. This isn't where you are carving a statue, and it is what you want to express or bring to the piece of stone, and not what you want it to evoke in people.

I don't feel like shelling out a certain amount per month to get engine access, no. Please don't tell me that that makes me unreasonable. I do believe I suggested a free alternative.
Regarding that, Elfprince, I was serious about my suggestion.

I haven't seen you break a sweat over the development of this game engine yet. (or even show an inclination to be willing to).

you need to rethink your logic before spewing off shit you don't understand. All you're doing is making yourself look like an idiot.

Swivelgames
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SpaceNinja
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Anyways, could someone please start making the game? I could help a little. :3

This is not to mention Swivel has been around for years and contributed a lot to Cemetech.

Seriously, dude, unlike Duke Nukem Forever, we're neither getting paid for this nor are we necessarily looking at an end goal (specifically). Stop talking about doing the developers favors because right now you're certainly doing the opposite. It does indeed count for something when you have others waiting on the other end of the finish line eager to see what the finished product is, but when it's a paced project the last thing you want is an audience that will get frustrated and impatient with you. Do the developers a favor, and stop complaining about it. This isn't about censorship, this isn't about quieting those who cry out, or any of that b/s. This is about getting you to stfu so the developers can do some work. And about putting you in the position of the developer working on a paced project. It's not your project, and you're certainly not managing or organizing it, so who are you to sit there and demand materials or a deadline?

'The developers' would have posted if they weren't steering clear from this overly counter-productive thread. (see other locked thread)

It is about you telling the people who are upset to clam up and wait longer for an already extended development period.
We played this game last time, and, as I said before, and I was forced to tell all the TOB players that TBG is still happening, and try to placate the people and insist, despite all evidence to the contrary, that this was happening.
Unlike Duke Nukem Forever, you don't hand out Christmas cards and teasers, but like DNF, there is this insistence that the game will be finished.

I do believe I suggested a free alternative.
I also like how you beat the people over the head with your insults and tell us to shut up, and then demand money out of us. You are in the real world, guys, where people who complain aren't trolls and most certainly do not cough up money when you demand it. Now, my original post was directed to the people who are actually making this game, not to people from around the forum. I did make a suggestion aimed specifically at Elfprince, in that respect. Swivelgames, stop mashing the 'drama' button and let the people with actual importance in here talk. Please. I want to hear what the developers have to say, not their fans who descend on nay-sayers whenever we speak up. If I wanted to ask you, I would have consulted you by other channels.

When you neither own a license issued by an unassociated company nor have the ability to code in C++ you're the last person with the right to complain about it being closed or open sourced. The scripts are open sourced because they are not bound by law to be closed. Work on them. Not once have I heard the developers advise you people not to.

If someone else want's to complain about it, let them

Yes, eventually, it will be finished. Until then, stop complaining. Yes I'm telling you to wait longer. Who isn't? If you don't like it, tough. You're going to have to. You're being impatient. Complaining is getting you far from anywhere.

I give up on the both of you.

And I don't even know who Kimmo is, more-or-less care, so that means nothing to me.

I'd like you to realize that you are in the real world, elrune, and that whining and begging for something isn't going to get you what you want. That other people have lives and other priorities other then a silly game that you can't stop fantasizing about. And again with the demanding of the money thing. You seriously are not in the position to be complaining about that, seeing as you neither have the knowledge or credentials to work on the a thing. If someone else want's to complain about it, let them. But whether or not it was a closed or open repository you wouldn't have access to it, so why are you complaining? Stop looking for more shit to whine about just because your original points were dismantled.

Better I make a big deal then keep quiet and this continues having an indefinite finish date.

Swivelgames, stop mashing the 'drama' button. We never asked to talk to you, I directed the OP at TBG's developers.

Infamous ex admin of the website Anontalk, who famously abused his visitors to breaking point and then posted giant rages asking why noone donated to his website. Look it up on ED if you're interested, it was entertaining at the time.

Again, words. Good for you, read them; information contained within. I suggested a free alternative. Noone even paused to tell me that it isn't legally viable, just continued demanding everyone STFU's.

I seem to remember you throwing out accusations that the developers where demanding money. You never paused to ask before you claimed such atrocities. Why are we the ones that should sit by and take it when you're the one throwing around the accusations? You never paused to figure the situation out or ask around nicely before posting your rant.

And just remember, a suggestion is a suggestion, but in the end it isn't your decision so you have no right to complain.

Lesson learned today (or not, if you're stubborn): Do your homework before you come to someone's front door only to start accusing them of things you (1) don't have the facts about, (2) don't have the right to complain about, or subjects that don't even concern you.