Everyone please post whatever tools and components you have right now so I can get an idea of what everyone has/needs to start building the upcoming projects in the Electronics/Embedded subforum.
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I've got 2 PICs, a programmer, and some bags of random resisters, LEDs, and a proto board. Along with whatever else I can salvage from old electronics.
Speaking of which, I really should get around to trying to build one of those HDD clocks....
Speaking of which, I really should get around to trying to build one of those HDD clocks....
For analog, resistors, transistors, electrolytic and ceramic capacitors, an audio transformer, headphone jack, a coil or two
For digital: 74-series ICs, LEDs, 330-ohm CLRs for the LEDs, maybe a 7-seg or two with 74-series drivers, and a MAX232 wouldn't be a bad idea.
Also batteries/case, breadboards, wires. Did I miss anything?
For digital: 74-series ICs, LEDs, 330-ohm CLRs for the LEDs, maybe a 7-seg or two with 74-series drivers, and a MAX232 wouldn't be a bad idea.
Also batteries/case, breadboards, wires. Did I miss anything?
Wait; are those parts you have or parts you're suggesting everyone has? If it's the latter I'm going to hold off from posting a parts list until I have an idea of what everyone has/is willing to spend.
@Kllrnohj: What are the 2 PICs? I know you have a 18F4550 but what's the other one?
@Kllrnohj: What are the 2 PICs? I know you have a 18F4550 but what's the other one?
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
Wait; are those parts you have or parts you're suggesting everyone has? If it's the latter I'm going to hold off from posting a parts list until I have an idea of what everyone has/is willing to spend.
@Kllrnohj: What are the 2 PICs? I know you have a 18F4550 but what's the other one?
I was suggesting a bare minimum of parts that everyone should have. My own list is way, way, way, way more extensive. I have nine boxes filled with parts on my desk at school alone, let alone my room at home. @Kllrnohj: What are the 2 PICs? I know you have a 18F4550 but what's the other one?
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
@Kllrnohj: What are the 2 PICs? I know you have a 18F4550 but what's the other one?
The PIC16F690 that came with the PIC Kit 2 Starter Kit (got it for the programmer for the PIC18F4550)
- Assorted resistors
Assorted caps (mostly 0.1 uF ceramic, a couple 100 uF electrolytic)
Voltage regulators (7805s, something else I haven't bothered finding specs on)
PIC 16F87X series micros and ICD (original serial ICD)
Various LEDs
That's the most interesting stuff. The only thing stopping me from really doing stuff with all that is my lack of resonators/crystals.
I have absolutely nothing, so once the projects start showing up, if they look cool and don't cost too much, I may start purchasing.
I heard in another topic that you'd be getting a kit for your CS 210 class; what parts does it come with?
To Everyone: Do you have a parallel or serial port on your computer (the one you'll be using for projects? And I mean *real* serial and parallel ports, not laptop ports or a usb adapter).
To Everyone: Do you have a parallel or serial port on your computer (the one you'll be using for projects? And I mean *real* serial and parallel ports, not laptop ports or a usb adapter).
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I have a PCI parallel port and two serial ports on my machine. Getting software to work with a PCI port is a bit of a pain, but worth it.
Two pieces of equipment I haven't noticed being mentioned.
- Digital multimeter with continuity tester and transistor tester.
- Logic probe with memory function and pulse stretching (these are invaluable for digital work).
If you plan on doing any soldering I'd also recommend a helping hand assembly aid and something to aid desoldering (I prefer to use a desoldering pump, others may prefer desoldering wick).
I use a Willem programmer (PCB3). These can be picked up cheaply "made in China" on eBay. You'll then need something like this if you have non-legacy parallel port addresses.
Edit: One component I forgot (how could I‽) that nobody should be without - the 555 timer IC.
Two pieces of equipment I haven't noticed being mentioned.
- Digital multimeter with continuity tester and transistor tester.
- Logic probe with memory function and pulse stretching (these are invaluable for digital work).
If you plan on doing any soldering I'd also recommend a helping hand assembly aid and something to aid desoldering (I prefer to use a desoldering pump, others may prefer desoldering wick).
I use a Willem programmer (PCB3). These can be picked up cheaply "made in China" on eBay. You'll then need something like this if you have non-legacy parallel port addresses.
Edit: One component I forgot (how could I‽) that nobody should be without - the 555 timer IC.
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
To Everyone: Do you have a parallel or serial port on your computer (the one you'll be using for projects? And I mean *real* serial and parallel ports, not laptop ports or a usb adapter).
Unfortunately I don't have serial or parellel ports on any of the 3 machines I use frequently (desktop and 2 laptops). I do, however, have a parallel port on an old HP that I'm using as a server (iirc, that is). I've thought about writing a simple client/server so that I can remotely access the server's parallel port, just never had much of a reason to
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
I heard in another topic that you'd be getting a kit for your CS 210 class; what parts does it come with?
To Everyone: Do you have a parallel or serial port on your computer (the one you'll be using for projects? And I mean *real* serial and parallel ports, not laptop ports or a usb adapter).
My Xp/Win 7 desktop has both serial and parallel, as does the Simms box and all six of its nodes. To Everyone: Do you have a parallel or serial port on your computer (the one you'll be using for projects? And I mean *real* serial and parallel ports, not laptop ports or a usb adapter).
I have some random wiring, a 15watt soldering iron, some rosin-core solder (not sure what size, fairly small), a de-soldering tool, a couple radio kits (one a crystal radio, the other a now disfunctional tunable radio of some sort), and a bunch of old motherboards that can be raided for parts, and some motors. Nothing chip-related. My old toshiba (XP), an old Dell running Linux, and an even older Gateway dual-booting 98SE and Linux all have parallel + serial. My main laptop doesn't, and I'm fairly certain the old iMac doesn't either.
Lets see, my good comp only has serial but jsut about every other comp I use on a regular basis has both; my laptop (xp), my PIII machine (xp+xubuntu), my server(xubuntu), and my old IBM Aptiva (98se). I also have lots of spare parts lying around, com ports , spare cables, drives old powermacs etc. but alas no micro controllers to speak of.
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Microcontrollers are the least of your worries; they're fairly cheap and easy-to-find. At this point I would think that for all of you the most important thing would be to build up a good base of debug hardware, random interfacing parts, breadboards, and wires/jumpers.
Okay it seems the majority of people are willing to spend ~$30-$45 dollars on this endeavor; which is good, because I had a tough time downsizing the kit as it was
Here's what I have so far (all parts are from Futurlec):
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The subtotal is $21.77, and shipping is $6 via international snail mail. If you've noticed I've left a few things out, as everything above I believe are absolutely essential (unless you already have the above parts I suggest you just buy them all). If you do not have a solderless breadboard and wires, then you need to add Part No.'s BREADBRD and JUMPERKIT, which together cost $10.80. In addition, if you do not already have a multimeter, I recommend that you get one (Part No. DM-DT830D, $4.90).
Another "big" expensive I left out were the cost of the microcontrollers, as I wasn't sure what each individual wanted to use; if I were to selectively choose microcontrollers based on what everyone has available to them, I would choose to post projects on the PIC16F877 (Part No. PIC16F877-20/P, $8.90), PIC18F4550 (Part No. PIC18F4550-I/P, $6.90), the ATmega8 (Part No. ATMEGA8-16PC, $4.50), and the ATtiny 2313 (Part No. ATTINY2313-20PU, $1.55). You may or may not want to code for all of these microcontrollers, which is why I left them out of the main shopping list, but I do suggest that you have at least one of these chips as these will be the focus of this subforum (unless someone wants to post projects of their own and port code across microcontroller families).
And for those of you wondering if you need a programmer to program your microcontroller, all of the parts needed to build one are in the parts list.
Here's what I have so far (all parts are from Futurlec):
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ITEM NAME ITEM DESCRIPTION QUANTITY PRICE AMOUNT
R010RMF 10ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R068RMF 68ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R100RMF 100ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R220RMF 220ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R330RMF 330ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R470RMF 470ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R820RMF 820ohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R001KMF 1kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R0015KMF 1.5kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R0022KMF 2.2kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R0027KMF 2.7kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R0047KMF 4.7kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R010KMF 10kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R015KMF 15kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
R100KMF 100kohm 1/4W 1% Metal Film Resistor 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
CRY4.0 4.000MHz Crystal 1 $ 0.30 $ 0.30
CRY12.000 12.000MHz Crystal 1 $ 0.30 $ 0.30
CRY16.000 16.000MHz Crystal 1 $ 0.30 $ 0.30
CRY20.000 20.000MHz Crystal 1 $ 0.30 $ 0.30
2N3906 2N3906 PNP General Purpose Transistor 5 $ 0.10 $ 0.50
2N3904 2N3904 5 $ 0.08 $ 0.40
BS170 BS170 N-Channel Switching FET 2 $ 0.18 $ 0.36
BS250 BS250 Mosfet Transistor 2 $ 0.20 $ 0.40
1N4148 1N4148 100V 200mA General Purpose Diode 1 $ 0.20 $ 0.20
BZX79-C5V1 BZX79 5.1V 500mW Zener Diodes 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
BZX79-C3V3 BZX79 3.3V 500mW Zener Diodes 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
BZX79-C3V6 BZX79 3.6V 500mW Zener Diodes 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
1N4743 1N4743 13V 1W Zener Diodes 2 $ 0.14 $ 0.28
7805T 7805T - 5V 1A Positive Regulator (LM7805) 1 $ 0.25 $ 0.25
7812T 7812T - 12V 1A Positive Regulator (LM7812) 1 $ 0.30 $ 0.30
LM317T LM317T - 1.5A Adj. Positive Regulator 1 $ 0.65 $ 0.65
C010PC 10pF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C015PC 15pF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C018PC 18pF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C027PC 27pF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C010UC 0.01uF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C100UC 0.1uF 50V Ceramic Capacitors 5 $ 0.10 $ 0.50
C00047UT 0.47uF 35V Tantalum Capacitors 5 $ 0.22 $ 1.10
C001U50E 1uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C0033U50E 3.3uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C010U50E 10uF 50V Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C022U50E 22uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.05 $ 0.25
C047U50E 47uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.10 $ 0.50
C100U50E 100uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.12 $ 0.60
C470U50E 470uF 50V Radial Electrolytic Capacitor 5 $ 0.25 $ 1.25
DB9F_ADAPTER DB9F Adapter 1 $ 1.90 $ 1.90
USB_ADAPTER USB_Adapter 1 $ 1.50 $ 1.50
9VBATTCLIP 9V Battery Clip 2 $ 0.10 $ 0.20
PCBMT02 PCB Mount RCA Sockets - Standard Version 1 $ 0.45 $ 0.45
LED5R Red 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.08 $ 0.08
LED5G Green 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.10 $ 0.10
LED5Y Yellow 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.10 $ 0.10
LED5O Orange 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.10 $ 0.10
LED5B Blue 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.45 $ 0.45
LED5W White 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.75 $ 0.75
LED5P Pink 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.65 $ 0.65
LED5PU Purple 5mm Round LED 1 $ 0.25 $ 0.25
DIP8 8 Position DIP Switch 1 $ 0.75 $ 0.75
Subtotal: $ 21.77
Total price: $ 21.77
The subtotal is $21.77, and shipping is $6 via international snail mail. If you've noticed I've left a few things out, as everything above I believe are absolutely essential (unless you already have the above parts I suggest you just buy them all). If you do not have a solderless breadboard and wires, then you need to add Part No.'s BREADBRD and JUMPERKIT, which together cost $10.80. In addition, if you do not already have a multimeter, I recommend that you get one (Part No. DM-DT830D, $4.90).
Another "big" expensive I left out were the cost of the microcontrollers, as I wasn't sure what each individual wanted to use; if I were to selectively choose microcontrollers based on what everyone has available to them, I would choose to post projects on the PIC16F877 (Part No. PIC16F877-20/P, $8.90), PIC18F4550 (Part No. PIC18F4550-I/P, $6.90), the ATmega8 (Part No. ATMEGA8-16PC, $4.50), and the ATtiny 2313 (Part No. ATTINY2313-20PU, $1.55). You may or may not want to code for all of these microcontrollers, which is why I left them out of the main shopping list, but I do suggest that you have at least one of these chips as these will be the focus of this subforum (unless someone wants to post projects of their own and port code across microcontroller families).
And for those of you wondering if you need a programmer to program your microcontroller, all of the parts needed to build one are in the parts list.
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