- Why I'm Pissed Off
- 06 Jun 2007 02:18:43 pm
- Last edited by KermMartian on 06 Jun 2007 05:47:15 pm; edited 1 time in total
Now, first of all, one of Omnimaga's members has a shell in the concept phase he's calling NexGenGS. Fine, cool. I was reading over the thread and I thought to myself, "hmm, self, this sounds like something cool. However, he's basically gonna spend months rewriting the MOS routine, file handling, etc. Why not offer to let him make the features he planned to put into NexGenGS some kind of extension to DCS? Then he could save all the KB from shell stuff and focus his 16K (or 32K or whatever) on actual gaming libraries. That would be pretty cool!" So I posted a friendly post to this effect prefaced "Please understand I don't mean to insult NexGenGS at all or start a flame war" and ended with "Feel free to ignore me completely if you don't agree. 
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Halifax freaks.
I get the following PM (and my post was deleted, so I don't have any evidence of its innocuousness, but I hope given the eight years I've been a member of the community you'd trust me):
Fine, he freaked, we yelled and argued on Omnimaga and IRC for a while, but eventually the thread was locked, we chatted more on IRC, and agreed to remain friends and mend the argument. However, this afternoon Kevin O blunders in, late and without any knowledge of the argument:
I've noticed recently that you attempted to start an anti-NextGenGS argument on Omnimaga. Knowing you have your own shell as competitor, DCS, I understand how you may want to prove that yours is better than his. Regardless of if it's true or not, the way you did it, the way you replied to people deleting your innapropriate posts, the way you talked about NextGenGS and the advertising in other people shells thread (why not stick to threads exclusively dedicated to DCS?) was innaceptable. Also, you launched an attack on the Omnimaga forum as a whole, because you disagreed with two or three people way of handling things. Get this: Halifax!=Omnimaga. Netham!=Omnimaga. Me!=Omnimaga. etc. We are just people working on a forum and making programs and music. The forum is just a big database where everyone can add stuff and it doesn't mean if you don't like how 4 or 5 ppl act that all 24 staff and the members are worth nothing. Since you caused the situation went totally out of hand,!
I have restricted your forum account from posting until I get internet access again, on july 3rd. You can still view the entire forums including all topics and posts, just not post.
I would like to ask you to not diss omnimaga and its staff on tcpa, cemetech, etc... for this, else, I will have to block you from the entire forum permanently.
I am sorry if I have to do this, but this was an extreme case. Again, this ban was not set for WHAT you said, but for HOW you said it.
For the third time, let me reiterate. I. Did. Not. Insult. Anything. Or. Anyone. In. My. Post. I made an honestly FRIENDLY post trying to be HELPFUL and offering what I thought was something advantageous to BOTH of us.
I thought this was settled last night, but now it's starting up thanks to Kevin. I always thought he defended people who were flamed, insulted, falsely-accused, and all that, but it turns out that's not the case at all.
I'm very disappointed in Kevin particularly, Netham second, but I feel that Jon and TIFreak8x stayed properly aloof, and I'm not even angry with Halifax anymore now that we worked things out.
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Halifax freaks.
I get the following PM (and my post was deleted, so I don't have any evidence of its innocuousness, but I hope given the eight years I've been a member of the community you'd trust me):
Halifax wrote:
@Kerm_Martian:
First off. Do you not know how to read?? That was a mockup. Secondly f*** reinventing the wheel alright. This is a shell made by the community. Basically what that means is. If they want to change the desktop then I will code it in if they want routines in there then I will do my d*** best to get those routines in there. No the GUI is not grayscale. Yes the text has to be squished because of the screen constraints and to make it look like the 89t app screen. So why don't you think about that it isn't made by Jon or I. We are just the middlemen to provide the passage way to the people who have been dying to see THEIR REQUESTS, THEIR ROUTINES, THEIR IDEAS in a shell, but never had the manpower, the know-how, or anything other means of achieving so that they can see their dream come true. So that's what NexGenGS is. Maybe your just afraid of competition!!! Think about that.
But I will never reinvent the wheel. Fallen_Ghost wanted his routine in the library. Well then he got it. People wanted the MOS libs. They got it. Now of course there will be restrictions, but this is to be as open as possible.
Oh yeah and Kerm it would seem as though you are stealing my idea with that new s*** you implemented into DCS that shows the bytes. My taskbar isn't even close to what yours is and you have not even seen what that button does. So really just crawl back into your DoorsCS and don't go and accuse people of something you know nothing about. Maybe you should try talking to me sometime.
Edit: After reading more in-depth to your post. No I think you should dare not to include DCS as one of the main shells because if I recall 7/8th the people I know know nothing about DCS and the other 1/8 only know because I told them. Secondly why are you trying to persuade everyone to build something over DoorsCS?? Do expect me to sell out that easily? or even sell out at all?
First off. Do you not know how to read?? That was a mockup. Secondly f*** reinventing the wheel alright. This is a shell made by the community. Basically what that means is. If they want to change the desktop then I will code it in if they want routines in there then I will do my d*** best to get those routines in there. No the GUI is not grayscale. Yes the text has to be squished because of the screen constraints and to make it look like the 89t app screen. So why don't you think about that it isn't made by Jon or I. We are just the middlemen to provide the passage way to the people who have been dying to see THEIR REQUESTS, THEIR ROUTINES, THEIR IDEAS in a shell, but never had the manpower, the know-how, or anything other means of achieving so that they can see their dream come true. So that's what NexGenGS is. Maybe your just afraid of competition!!! Think about that.
But I will never reinvent the wheel. Fallen_Ghost wanted his routine in the library. Well then he got it. People wanted the MOS libs. They got it. Now of course there will be restrictions, but this is to be as open as possible.
Oh yeah and Kerm it would seem as though you are stealing my idea with that new s*** you implemented into DCS that shows the bytes. My taskbar isn't even close to what yours is and you have not even seen what that button does. So really just crawl back into your DoorsCS and don't go and accuse people of something you know nothing about. Maybe you should try talking to me sometime.
Edit: After reading more in-depth to your post. No I think you should dare not to include DCS as one of the main shells because if I recall 7/8th the people I know know nothing about DCS and the other 1/8 only know because I told them. Secondly why are you trying to persuade everyone to build something over DoorsCS?? Do expect me to sell out that easily? or even sell out at all?
Fine, he freaked, we yelled and argued on Omnimaga and IRC for a while, but eventually the thread was locked, we chatted more on IRC, and agreed to remain friends and mend the argument. However, this afternoon Kevin O blunders in, late and without any knowledge of the argument:
Unidentified senior Omni staff member (aka Kevin) wrote:
I've noticed recently that you attempted to start an anti-NextGenGS argument on Omnimaga. Knowing you have your own shell as competitor, DCS, I understand how you may want to prove that yours is better than his. Regardless of if it's true or not, the way you did it, the way you replied to people deleting your innapropriate posts, the way you talked about NextGenGS and the advertising in other people shells thread (why not stick to threads exclusively dedicated to DCS?) was innaceptable. Also, you launched an attack on the Omnimaga forum as a whole, because you disagreed with two or three people way of handling things. Get this: Halifax!=Omnimaga. Netham!=Omnimaga. Me!=Omnimaga. etc. We are just people working on a forum and making programs and music. The forum is just a big database where everyone can add stuff and it doesn't mean if you don't like how 4 or 5 ppl act that all 24 staff and the members are worth nothing. Since you caused the situation went totally out of hand,!
I have restricted your forum account from posting until I get internet access again, on july 3rd. You can still view the entire forums including all topics and posts, just not post.
I would like to ask you to not diss omnimaga and its staff on tcpa, cemetech, etc... for this, else, I will have to block you from the entire forum permanently.
I am sorry if I have to do this, but this was an extreme case. Again, this ban was not set for WHAT you said, but for HOW you said it.
For the third time, let me reiterate. I. Did. Not. Insult. Anything. Or. Anyone. In. My. Post. I made an honestly FRIENDLY post trying to be HELPFUL and offering what I thought was something advantageous to BOTH of us.
I thought this was settled last night, but now it's starting up thanks to Kevin. I always thought he defended people who were flamed, insulted, falsely-accused, and all that, but it turns out that's not the case at all.
I'm very disappointed in Kevin particularly, Netham second, but I feel that Jon and TIFreak8x stayed properly aloof, and I'm not even angry with Halifax anymore now that we worked things out.
