I remember reading that OS X was based on a HEAVILY modified Unix micro-kernel. I don't think FreeBSD is a micro-kernel, but I haven't really checked.

I also remember reading a kernel comparison between FreeBSD, Linux, Solaris, etc... and Linux was the fastest. As for why linux used your threading - uh... who the hell cares? that is ONE aspect of the kernel....

Rayden, you are still an idiot if you think FreeBSDs filesystem and swap have any affect on Doom3's performance

if you think the fast you can switch between ram and disk more time you have for the 3D stuff right.... and check this results oin net http://librenix.com/?inode=1089 for the disk, and check this http://people.freebsd.org/~murray/bsd_flier.html well about security

FreeBSD - 36 advisories
http://secunia.com/product/1132/

Red Hat Linux ES 3 -188 advisories
http://secunia.com/product/2535/

Gentoo Linux - 438 advisories
http://secunia.com/product/339/

well check this to
http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2003/07/08/most_reliable_and_fastest_hosting_company_sites_during_june.html

and if you think apple run linux check this out
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/apple-xserve-introduction

and check this descussion forum maybe you get some info of it
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224836

check this too... http://www.ltn.lv/~ac/UNIXvsLINUX.html

so the hell linux is faster than freebsd we try to put it on the fast can that's why in some code files you can encouter assembler C and C++ depends what is more faster or in case that the speed doesn't means any changes is the most easiest....

No, I think that there is NO switching between RAM and the disk while playing at all - thats why there are load times



Way to go, dolt. Not only did no one say OS X used linux (we said it used UNIX), you also proved yourself wrong when you said it was based on FreeBSD



Linux has inlined assembly too

NOTE: A game's performance will vary at MOST by 1% between operating systems assuming identical image quality, rendering method, code quality (in the game), and driver speed (nVidia's unix/BSD/linux drivers are pretty good, so this isn't a problem). As games don't use kernel calls during the main game loop, and they don't use swap while running (aside from loading), games will perform equal even when using a different kernel. Need I remind you both FreeBSD and Linux use the same X server and sound APIs, which will have a much larger affect on game speed than the kernel will

However, as for the swap, writing to a buffer is hella faster than writing straight to the disk (which is why faster harddrives come with bigger caches )

I just read through this topic and I am lost...

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I am about getting tired of this FreeBSD is more 1337 than god. Please do stop.

Agreed. Isn't it generally agreed that a lot of the *BSD distros are pretty lame and run even on propped-up toasters? (thanks to bash.org for that phrase)

Hey, UTI runs on BSD...and it was down last night into this morning...

My point exactly. AlienCC is always complaining about various quirks that make maintaining UTI and the other sites run on his server a pain in the neck.

Actually, I hate to pain you, but I think Telroth said the UTI server problem (at least the IRC one), was all hardware, so nothing would really run.

Thankfully we have azzuri to chat.

Indeed. Well, it's just as well that the problems are hardware, since that's much easier (albeit more expensive) to fix.

well, I think he said it was the PSU or the Mobo, he wasn't sure.

BSD is pretty solid, and excellent for server usage. For desktop use, however, its pretty worthless.... (cmon Rayden, don't disapoint, hurry up and argue this )

It sounds like he is advocating it for desktop use, however, especially if he's arguing its worth for gaming.

Heh, go to the freebsd features ( http://www.freebsd.org/features.html ), and nearly all the features relate to really good server usage...but not much else



Oh, does that say one of the features there a filesystem and swap CACHE? I though you (rayden) claimed that FreeBSD wrote directly to the harddrive for faster performance? Seems you were dead wrong about that - and about what else I wonder?

Hmm, his non-knowledge about computer-related stuff is making me doubt the quality of Macrodie...

i don't have said that it uses swap for performance what i say is that t doesn't uses swap about the stuff of computer knowledge think again boy i have 16 certificates including cisco so if you are planing to talk about pc be aware of that another story that people aren't understanding what's i'm talking about is tht freebsd does not use the buffer of the disk and for your own pleasur **BSD systems have dedicated solutions and we don't take more than one hour about linux im not sure as all bugs hav to be comunicated to linos another thing could be that we release more faster bsd version than people on linux about server's really is considered the best and desktop we have that solutions to, another thing if you are calling me 1337 what can i say its true, another story is that i'm a moderator... and i am an admin o two bsd servers... about you i don't but i'm steal lovin my bsd system i don't admit so mutch secrity fails like linux and windows....

So now it doesn't use the swap AT ALL? I could have SWORN you said that it did.... And FreeBSD *DOES* use the buffer on the disk. Or at least it SHOULD. If it uses RAM for its cache rather than using part of the 2mb-16mb on disk cache of harddrives, then it is a ridiculously stupid kernel.

Heh, at least he's "1337" though like he claims, with his 16 certificates.