grubbycoder wrote:
It's odd that TI-BASIC support hasn't been confirmed yet. Maybe TI's going all-in on Python starting with the Evo.


I do not think it is something that has to be confirmed. I think it goes without saying that it will have Ti BASIC on it. Ti BASIC is meant to be simple so that user can quickly automate functions of the calculator. This is not what Python being on board is meant for. This kind of programming came about well before programmer, developer, etc were even a thing, and it was usually a keystroke system that was stored in memory. Literally, a way to automate the tasks you otherwise did by hand on the calculator.

I think it would leave a massive gap if Ti BASIC was go by the wayside and the ability to quickly write what are just essentially automation programs for users by users on the calculator would take a hit.

It starts with understanding that Ti BASIC is not Python and Python is not some better form of Ti BASIC. Both are different and serve different computing purposes.
It is a little scary that none of the homescreen icons seem to be TI-BASIC, but I agree with jacober. If it's still an 84, it's still gonna use BASIC. If anything, they might switch to, like, something more similar to 68k basic, but I think even that's a stretch.

Edit: One thing that scares me even more about the homescreen icons, however, is the fact that they seem more solid and permanent; it might become impossible to delete apps, resulting in even more bloatware on this already bloatware-full OS. Just speculation, though.
ThatOneGuy wrote:
Edit: One thing that scares me even more about the homescreen icons, however, is the fact that they seem more solid and permanent; it might become impossible to delete apps, resulting in even more bloatware on this already bloatware-full OS. Just speculation, though.


This is purely speculation.

But I can see this too. Have the assembly application bundled into each OS update. So you won't download any apps, you'll just get them as part of the OS bundle when there is an update. I was poking around Ti Education website two nights ago and noticed a page explaining how one can purchase apps. This isn't a thing at the moment, I think it is something coming down the pipes. So perhaps a sort of app store from Ti, connected to a user profile account, where you can download some but they cost extra money.

I can see this as a vector to shut down assembly development outside of the official Ti apps as well. There isn't a need to add apps when they are just bundled together in the OS. That leaves just BASIC (or whatever iteration they go for) and Python programs for users.

All of this course doesn't mean it can't be cracked by someone. And none of this is actually based on anything other than supposition based on Ti's recent crackdown on user developed programs. I can't see Ti just throw their hands up with the Evo. I think they are going to double down.
Purchasing apps was a thing back in the days, they had SDKs etc. I very much doubt it's coming back.

And yeah it's likely going to adopt what they did on the recent calc models that are locked down from the beginning like the 84+T or 82AEP where the OS update is all in one file (OS+Apps) and you can't install them separately.

I've also heard that Basic support may have been on the chopping block at some point during development (with some teachers not caring about Basic anymore...) but considering the decades of history (and the fact that the OS homescreen etc is almost a basic repl anyway) it's probably not going to happen and we'll still have Basic, we just can't see the icon because it's after the ones in the pictures?
Yes, my thoughts exactly. That little down-arrow at the bottom is reassuring.
The TI-84 Evo may look like a good advancement of the TI-84 Plus CE.
I have noticed something new about the TI-84 Evo, this time the keys for the design have a new font comparing to the Arial/Helvetica Neue we had before for the TI-84 Plus CE/Python.

It looks like TI used Roboto, or at least a very similar font to it:

Found some more links to the Evo, soon to be on sale. It's exciting to see its slowly being announced/leaked. No photos, but maybe some more info about the Evo.

New link:
https://www.connection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Search?searchManufacturerName=Texas+Instruments&Sort=Best+Matches&DefSort=Y&SearchResultsGrid_pageSize=12&viewmode=List&term=evo

I'm having problems getting it saved on the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine but hopefully someone can get it on there.
willsdiskettedream wrote:
Found some more links to the Evo, soon to be on sale. It's exciting to see its slowly being announced/leaked. No photos, but maybe some more info about the Evo.

New link:
https://www.connection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Search?searchManufacturerName=Texas+Instruments&Sort=Best+Matches&DefSort=Y&SearchResultsGrid_pageSize=12&viewmode=List&term=evo

I'm having problems getting it saved on the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine but hopefully someone can get it on there.


$179??? That price is absolutely insane. Either it’s just the other companies marking it at that price or TI is just hiking up that price to the Moon. If it’s going to be that close to $200 it better be some hell of a Calculator.
AchakTheFurry wrote:
$179??? That price is absolutely insane. Either it’s just the other companies marking it at that price or TI is just hiking up that price to the Moon. If it’s going to be that close to $200 it better be some hell of a Calculator.


For what it's worth, this site lists the CE at ~$170. It'll likely be a bit cheaper depending on the retailer / time of year.
It's listed at $143 here: https://www.directdial.com/us/item/ti84-evo-standard-white/84evo-fc-1l1-a
While I am looking forward to the release of this calculator, it'll probably be impossible for me to be able to purchase it (whether that be because TI won't or will ship very few Evo's to Lebanon or because my parents won't pay $170 for this thing, and I don't blame them at all, that's quite the absurd pricetag to put on a calculator)
The ~$170 USD price point for the Ti 84 Evo kind of makes sense given inflation. When the Ti 84 Plus CE was released in 2015 (coming up on 11 years ago), it retailed at around $130 USD. Flash forward to 2026 and $130 2015 USD has the same purchasing power as $170 2026 USD. It is certainly the top end, but the price increase can almost be completely justified with inflation over the period of both releases.

Given the new device will at least have the same capabilities of the Ti 84 Plus CE and we already know will have more because of the increased processor speed and graphical user space. This price point actually seems pretty fair.

A few things to keep in mind with graphing calculator pricing in the US. Ti holds a strong monopoly over the education market which means Ti can exercise what marketers called captive-market pricing. Essentially, they have a little more wiggle room to charge more than a devices perceived value because of the goodwill built up in the market. And there is a limit to this, charge too much and people will push back including those very large education institutions that have come to rely on Ti. It is important to note that while many considered the Ti 84 Plus CE to be overpriced, its was routinely sold out over peak sales periods and 11 years later showed very little signs of slowing down in the US. Second, Ti is not really a traditional electronics manufacturer when it comes to these calculators, they are more like an approved education device supplier. They don't sell calculators to many people beyond the current crop of students entering that level of their schooling. The economy of scale that say Apple or Samsung enjoy with iPhones and televisions does not translate into these basically niche products. This means Ti has higher costs for producing the device that do not go down over time because production runs typically do not increase over periods.

So when talking about prices with Ti calculator products it is best to accept that there will be a price premium present because of their market position in education products and because of the niche nature of the graphing calculator itself. The question than is not is Ti over-charging (they will almost always be over-charging when comparing to other electronic devices) but rather are they over-charging to the point it is beyond what would be acceptable given their position and product? The answer so far with what I see with the Evo is no. Ti is charging based on the increased costs in their own production, the power of the USD and the increase in capabilities of the new device.
TI has always in the past absorbed the inflation cost, basically, otherwise the TI-83 Plus from 1999 would be like $250 now instead of $100.
However, maybe it will be a bit higher than "expected" because of the tariffs.

But again, if it's at ≈$140 now, it might be $110 or so during BTS, which wouldn't be too bad for the US. Similar to the CE anyway.

In France, since there's actual competition, it's much cheaper, so it will be interesting to see if it continues to be at around 80 euro or so once/if it's sold there.... (let's not forget the cheaper "CE" (82 Advanced Edition Python) is even cheaper, like 60 euro...)
Looks like it has come back to amazon.com https://www.amazon.com/TI-84-Graphing-Calculator-Texas-Instruments/dp/B0G8SFR7DH/?th=1
Faked us zip code to see full information, picture seems to be still CE but price is 160 dollars and release date is 28-apr-2026


Quote:

The TI-84 Evo graphing calculator is the newest generation of the TI-84 series — designed to help students work smarter and build confidence in math and science. Durable enough to last from middle school through college, it’s built for everyday classroom use. • Faster performance with a 3x faster processor for quicker, clearer graphing. • Bigger, clearer visuals with 50% more graphing space make it easier to see patterns and relationships at a glance. • An intuitive, icon-based home screen that puts commonly used math tools front and center. • Simplified menus and buttons reduce visual clutter and make navigation easy to learn. • Universal USB-C charging with a rechargeable battery that’s built to last from class to test day. • Built-in Python programming introduces basic coding skills that connect to real-world applications. • Built for math at every level — algebra, geometry, calculus, statistics, and more. • Approved for major standardized exams, including ACT®, SAT®, PSAT/NMSQT®, IB® Diploma Programme, and AP® course exams. The TI-84 Evo is a high-performance graphing calculator designed for everyday learning. The all-new, reimagined interface means less time searching for tools and more time solving problems — so math just makes sense. A 4-year subscription to the TI-84 Evo online calculator is included with purchase.


EDIT: looks like link stopped working again, but sort of guessing as this appeared 18-mar, next time it will properly appear in 18-apr.
It seems like the Evo is available to order on this website and ships within a couple days, though I’m not sure of the validity of that.

https://www.connection.com/product/ti-ti84-evo-standard-white/84evo-fc-1l1-a/42118551
And it's gone again. Yet another false start.
AchakTheFurry wrote:
It seems like the Evo is available to order on this website and ships within a couple days, though I’m not sure of the validity of that.

https://www.connection.com/product/ti-ti84-evo-standard-white/84evo-fc-1l1-a/42118551


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ThatOneGuy wrote:
It is a little scary that none of the homescreen icons seem to be TI-BASIC, but I agree with jacober. If it's still an 84, it's still gonna use BASIC. If anything, they might switch to, like, something more similar to 68k basic, but I think even that's a stretch.

Edit: One thing that scares me even more about the homescreen icons, however, is the fact that they seem more solid and permanent; it might become impossible to delete apps, resulting in even more bloatware on this already bloatware-full OS. Just speculation, though.

I honestly hope that basic gets atleast some sort of update on this new calc- like how the python module on the TI84+CEpy has pretty good design. Currently, the basic editor is just a simple text app and doesnt have much, so things like syntax highlighting or errors in code being indicated would be nice.
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