While messing around with ChatGPT, I was excited to learn that i could program in eZ80 as I intended to learn. To test its abilities, I gave it the simple task of a Tic-Tac-Toe game. After over 30 minutes of debugging and 20 code rewrites, it still was unable to make a functioning game. Might use it in the future for documentation help but it does not have the range I had hoped.

P.S. I can include the code if anyone is interested.
ChatGPT is useless at programming pretty much anything.
MateoConLechuga wrote:
ChatGPT is useless at programming pretty much anything.


Also important to note that the less common of a language it is, the less it'll know about it and something like ez80 assembly isn't something that's used a lot compared to other languages like C or Python. Definitely better to ask your questions either here in the forums or in SAX, there's usually someone around who could probably help or at least point you in the right direction.
Yeah, I was mostly just playing around with ChatGPT for fun. I wanted to know its capabilities for coding, specifically for eZ80.

RoccoLox Programs wrote:
Definitely better to ask your questions either here in the forums or in SAX, there's usually someone around who could probably help or at least point you in the right direction.


I intend to browse resources and lurk on the forum a lot during the summer. If I can't find answers, I'll definitely reach out to you as opposed to the bot. Thanks for being such a kind and supportive community!
I believe that Chat GPT is a great assistant to have when coding. After all it is going to replace simple and repetitive jobs in the future. But I believe when it comes to coding in programming a languages that doesn't really have a variety of open source programs before 2021 it tents to struggle due to the lack of data used to train the model.

MateoConLechuga wrote:
ChatGPT is useless at programming pretty much anything.

To a certain extent. To date, Chat GPT "3.0" is roughly 80% correct, with the remaining 20% being less valuable languages that were left out of train data. However, if Chat GPT receives more training data, I predict that it's overall 80% correctness will be closer to a 85% - 90%. (Urhm Chat GPT "4.0" does this)
Alvajoy123 wrote:
I believe that Chat GPT is a great assistant to have when coding. After all it is going to replace simple and repetitive jobs in the future. But I believe when it comes to coding in programming a languages that doesn't really have a variety of open source programs before 2021 it tents to struggle due to the lack of data used to train the model.

MateoConLechuga wrote:
ChatGPT is useless at programming pretty much anything.

To a certain extent. To date, Chat GPT "3.0" is roughly 80% correct, with the remaining 20% being less valuable languages that were left out of train data. However, if Chat GPT receives more training data, I predict that it's overall 80% will be closer to a 85% - 90%. (Urhm Chat GPT "4.0" does this)

This further solidifies my belief that you are an idiot.
MateoConLechuga wrote:
Alvajoy123 wrote:
I believe that Chat GPT is a great assistant to have when coding. After all it is going to replace simple and repetitive jobs in the future. But I believe when it comes to coding in programming a languages that doesn't really have a variety of open source programs before 2021 it tents to struggle due to the lack of data used to train the model.

MateoConLechuga wrote:
ChatGPT is useless at programming pretty much anything.

To a certain extent. To date, Chat GPT "3.0" is roughly 80% correct, with the remaining 20% being less valuable languages that were left out of train data. However, if Chat GPT receives more training data, I predict that it's overall 80% will be closer to a 85% - 90%. (Urhm Chat GPT "4.0" does this)

This further solidifies my belief that you are an idiot.


Hey MateoConLechuga, Simply going off assumptions doesn't guarantee you correctness. you simply don't have any experience with technology (NW "Neural Networks", LLM "Large Language Models") and you probably using the free version of ChatGPT. Where as the paid version has slightly fixed most of the issues you are addressing.
I’ve messed around with eZ80 projects a bit, and ChatGPT can help, but only if you already know roughly what you want to build. It’s decent for sketching out routines or checking syntax, but I still end up rewriting a lot of the code by hand because timing and memory quirks don’t always translate well in AI-generated snippets.
What's wild is people arguing over AI. It is absolutely something that you can use. Yes ez80 asm is lacking in the AI department, but you have to "teach" it. Work with it. It's a tool. It's like people talk trash about AI, but go ahead, compile your code into .8xp without the compiler every time you make a code change. Do it by hand. Oh, can't avoid using tools? I'm pretty sure historically people have argued over tools being released and used widespread but ultimately it's you who does something with it. Idk why people complain about tools when you literally use tools to do everything there is to do around development. Ultimately it's all tools designed by people who put work into them, whether IDEs, compilers and now AIs. It's all to help you progress and it should be left at that.

One recommended thing I'd say is to try is to make it write it in c and compile it. Then use debugger to grab the machine asm code. It may or may not be able to rewrite it with the right back and forth feedback and persuasion. It's like teaching a child. It's a tool and shouldn't replace anyone, but if you're writing something and genuinely don't have time and nobody else has done it, nobody else has a say so as to if you can't do it. If they won't do it who will eh?

Yes, I've also had issues with ez80 asm and AI. But AI does improve. It couldn't write things it can write now, because we're all training it.
  
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