rivereye wrote:
I thought it was live-cd only, I may be wrong though
it CAN be installed, although i don't remeber exactly how... (something like 'mounting' the cd to the hdd or something)
it CAN be installed, although i don't remeber exactly how... (something like 'mounting' the cd to the hdd or something)
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
Hmm...I'm preety sure I said it already...oh yes, I did 
heh...srry about that, i was really tired when i responded to that
KermMartian wrote:
sudo? Do you mean "pseudo" by any chance?!
"sudo" is a method (NOT built in, nor supported by all distro's) to temporarily switch to the root user. It basically gives root access to the next command, without actually needing to log in as the root (or 'su' - switch user - to the root; 'su' is the method i always use, as i don't have sudo setup/installed nor configured)
'sudo' is nice in that the user doesn't actually need to know the root's password, and instead uses their own password when asked by sudo (however, the user could always just "sudo passwd"....)
sudo is perfect for live-CD's, as then they don't have to have the user specify a root password - it can just auto-log in to a normal user account, yet still let that user have full control without the risks of always running as root
Oh, cool! That might be a key to linux becoming used in educational/commercial settings on multiuser machines.
KermMartian wrote:
Oh, cool! That might be a key to linux becoming used in educational/commercial settings on multiuser machines.
'sudo'? not really. you'd use groups on a multi-user machine...that way you don't have to worry about some idiot screwing it all up
(after all, with linux, there aren't any "are you SURE?" messages, and the OS will stand by and let you hose the whole system - including deleting the kernel right out from under it)
I've been pondering; isn't using sudo a potential security flaw? I mean, if you have sudo setup to do all of your root tasks with (permissions-wise), then anyone who hacked your username could use sudo under your username (but even if sudo is configured to only have a very limited set of permissions, then what's the point of having to use it, configure it, possibly open a security hole, when you could just su instead?)
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
I've been pondering; isn't using sudo a potential security flaw? I mean, if you have sudo setup to do all of your root tasks with (permissions-wise), then anyone who <font color=red>censored</font> your username could use sudo under your username (but even if sudo is configured to only have a very limited set of permissions, then what's the point of having to use it, configure it, possibly open a security hole, when you could just su instead?)
yeah, it is - which is why i don't use it (they will need your password tho, as sudo asks for it everytime you "sudu")
(however, for a personal PC or liveCD, having someone h@ck your account AT the PC isn't exactly a big threat....)
Okay, so it's not just me...BTW, I use su also 
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
Okay, so it's not just me...BTW, I use su also
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
erm...you can change that, can't you?!
KermMartian wrote:
Ultimate Dev'r wrote:
Okay, so it's not just me...BTW, I use su also
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
Seems kinda pointless (using sudo) when the root password for knoppix is passwd...
erm...you can change that, can't you?!
once you've booted from the CD, yes
'$passwd root'
yeah, probably, not my job here though. I think we should get back on topic too
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rivereye wrote:
yay, now to try and get wifi in FC4
just compile ndiswrapper on it...(or were you getting stuck somewhere? i don't remember...lol)
actually, I was trying the one Ult-Dev linked to, it has WPA (which I need). I really need to learn more about Linux first though
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