Dapianokid wrote:
I suppose I was! Nobody left Casio behind. Smile IMHO Casio calculators are all around better devices, and have better software. The developers at Casio know their stuff, it looks like. They function much better than TI calcs, which is why its such a challenge to make games for TI calcs. Razz
The trouble is the lack of widespread adoption. TI is much more entrenched (in the US market) than Casio, although Casio has a wider following in Europe.
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Oi, I can play games on my casio? Very Happy hehehe who needs scientific calcs?
Yes, and Cemetech's Casio Prizm Games archives section is the top Google result for Prizm Games.
I know the Prizm has a games archive. Smile
I think the nSpires are like TI’s way of saying “Just math, please!” and the CSE is how they are trying to make up for that. The nSpire has so much storage space I would never run out, and the Prizm looks like it only has a moderately sized storage space... How large is 16mb on a Prizm when you compare it to 1.5 mb on an 84+SE?
10x larger than the SE; 5 times larger than the CSE.
Dapianokid wrote:
I know the Prizm has a games archive. Smile
I think the nSpires are like TI’s way of saying “Just math, please!” and the CSE is how it is trying to make up for that. The nSpire has so much storage space I would never run out, and the Prizm looks like it only has a moderately sized storage space... How large is 16mb on a Prizm when you compare it to 1.5 mb on an 84+SE?


I will say one thing. I have a 9860 and it has roughly 1.5MB of storage mem. I was always having to delete addins to make room for more.

I have yet to fill my PRIZMs full capacity and I have 5 ebooks, 16 LuaZM progs, and 18 addins on it. Also, the PRIZM's 16MB seems much more "roomy" even though the addins are larger.

BTW, 16MB is a whole lot of ebooks. Very Happy
blue_bear_94 wrote:
10x larger than the SE; 5 times larger than the CSE.
On the other hand, because TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition programs and Apps will continue to largely be hand-written assembly code (and will mostly omit full-screen images because of RAM limitations), they will be substantially smaller than their Prizm C counterparts.
KermMartian wrote:
blue_bear_94 wrote:
10x larger than the SE; 5 times larger than the CSE.
On the other hand, because TI-84 Plus C Silver Edition programs and Apps will continue to largely be hand-written assembly code (and will mostly omit full-screen images because of RAM limitations), they will be substantially smaller than their Prizm C counterparts.


Kerm’s point is one of the things that I was considering. The writing for 8x series calculators is done by professional, experience coders who put a lot of energy into the enthusiastic hobby that is calculator hacking. They know what they’re doing, and most of the code I see on here makes everybody look like deities to me.
I was afraid that it may not suit my needs, but flysinfisch makes me feel much better. I mean, the only time I ever run out of room on my TI84+ SE is when I load a TI-boy SE gb/gbc ROM onto it. So the only way I would ever run out of the 16mb I get with the Prizm would be if I tried to port Minetest (Minecraft clone. One older stable release is about 14 mb without any external data, and is written in C) to it. So I understand it’s like having a fancy TI84+SE basically. Why on earth do nSpires have 100mb, then...?!
Anyway, the nSpire, Prizm, and CSE all have about the same LCD density, with the Prizm being a bit wider but still about the same size. They all support the standard 16 bit color, and 65535 different colors is more than enough for me. What exactly are “add-ins”?
Dapianokid wrote:

What exactly are “add-ins”?


They are programs written in C/ASM, and they show up on the main menu. So I am guessing they are like ASM apps on TI's except with casio calcs they are right on the main menu. Wink
So like utilities, games, and actual math functionality? It’s like all the folders for [control panel] + [program files] + [desktop] combined into a nice menu?
Dapianokid wrote:
So like utilities, games, and actual math functionality? It’s like all the folders for [control panel] + [program files] + [desktop] combined into a nice menu?


Exactly.

All the modes (graph, run-matrix, stat) are in the main menu, as well as system settings and memory manager. After that, all installed addins are displayed.
I see.
There are sound programs, (although those take up quite some space.) file system browsers, MSD’s, and other utilities for Prizms as well, aren’t there? I haven’t found much stuff anywhere I look as for community created utilities. I am certain the Prizm has a filesystem structure?
Dapianokid wrote:
I see.
There are sound programs, (although those take up quite some space.) file system browsers, MSD’s, and other utilities for Prizms as well, aren’t there? I haven’t found much stuff anywhere I look as for community created utilities. I am certain the Prizm has a filesystem structure?


the filesystem is FAT-16

Utilities by gbl08ma is probably the best utilities addin out there. It has a clock, a filesystem browser, calendar, task manager, overclocker and more. Quite feature-packed.

The PRIZM connects to the computer as an MSD, but there is no current way to connect an MSD to the PRIZM. Wink
:S I’ll learn how to do that. I promise, once I get going with C... I won’t stop. But I probably won’t learn the ASM for whatever processor it has.
Wow he has an amazing utility! It’s like WiixPlorer for a Prizm.
Yes, its really amazing.

The prizm has a Renesas SH-4A processor. And no ASM tutorials that I know of. Wink
It’d help if it were a standard, well known processor. Of course, the Prizm was definitely too good to be true. Picking an obscure processor is one of the best ways to shatter the dreams of an aspiring programmer!
As flyingfisch pointed out the Prizm has an SH-4A in it, which is a standard and well-known processor.
Perhaps I’m speaking from my limited point of view.
It’s not anything I’m familiar with, but I shouldn’t have expected anything familiar anyway. Are there any free emulators out there for it? I can’t find one, not that I can use one yet anyway, I still have to wait about a month to get the money for a Prizm.
benryves wrote:
As flyingfisch pointed out the Prizm has an SH-4A in it, which is a standard and well-known processor.
Standard and well-known enough to have a GCC target, no less, which is more than what we can say for our dear z80. Sad Sadly.
My father taught me a lot about what I know about computers. He has been interested in them since he was little, and his first “tinker toy” was a Timex-Sinclair Z80 with 1k RAM and an analog display. Smile He helped me understand a lot about the processor.
What I know about the Nintendo Wii comes from extensive research of the writings by people who actually knew a lot about it, so I had it easy there.
So I’ll learn about the Prizm the way I learned about Wiis.
KermMartian wrote:
benryves wrote:
As flyingfisch pointed out the Prizm has an SH-4A in it, which is a standard and well-known processor.
Standard and well-known enough to have a GCC target, no less, which is more than what we can say for our dear z80. Sad Sadly.

Not to mention Visual Studio, but that's perhaps not surprising as Windows CE can run on an SH-4. Smile
Dapianokid wrote:
Wow he has an amazing utility! It’s like WiixPlorer for a Prizm.


Thanks! Utilities still doesn't read connected USB devices, connect to network shares or act as a FTP server (by the way, CALCnet on the Prizm anyone?), and it doesn't play music either Smile

Casio has a free 90-day trial of their Prizm emulator, which they call "fx-CG Manager".
  
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