Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55764 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Posted: 27 Nov 2011 02:12:16 pm Post subject: Sandpaper v0.8 Calculator FTP Client/Server
Back in August, when I was traveling up to Maine to vacation with Elfprince13, Elfprincess13, and Merthsoft, I started Sandpaper, an FTP client/server for CALCnet and TI-83+/84+ graphing calculators. With the announcement of TI-Forge's zContest contest, I decided to enter Sandpaper as an ASM Utility for that contest, and I am happy to announce that I now have a complete, functional, and hopefully mostly bug-free beta release ready, Sandpaper v0.8.
Sandpaper v0.8 is an FTP client and server for CALCnet and Doors CS. It can be used to trade programs, lists, appvars, GDBs, groups, pictures, and strings between directly-connected calculators, several calculators over a network, or even between the ticalc.org and Cemetech file archives and a calculator using the upcoming globalCALCnet Sandpaper bridge. This release implements full file listing, the ability to send and receive programs between calculators, and much more. It is a fully-functional demo and beta that lacks only the ability to send and receive filetypes other than programs. Among the itemized features it offers:
:: Use your calculator as an FTP client or server
:: Fetch files from other calculators
:: Send files to other calculators
:: Use the native Doors CS 6+ folder system for easy navigation
:: Supports programs, appvars, groups, lists, GDBs, strings, and picture variables
:: Store programs to RAM or Archive
:: Get programs from RAM or Archive - no unarchiving necessary
:: Robust failure recovery will protect your calculator from crashes if disconnected during transfer, insufficient space, or other problems occur.
:: Use of the DCS GUI allows for an attractive interface while maintaining small program size.
Please give it a try and report any bugs you find! Enjoy the video below.
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55764 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Posted: 28 Nov 2011 11:59:28 am Post subject:
Deep Thought wrote:
I just realized what Sandpaper is for, and it actually sounds incredibly useful That's one program I really, really wish I had.
It's funny how this supports groups while even TI Connect doesn't handle them right XD
Thanks! Once I finish putting the gCn Bridge for ticalc.org and Cemetech together, which I hope to work on in my evenings the next few days, I'll have an even cooler feature to demo. _________________
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Somewhere out there
Posted: 28 Nov 2011 02:26:43 pm Post subject:
erm, why doesn't it support apps? I know, you told me on chat that they have to be written manually into ROM, but I thought Groups can't be in RAM, so it would be the same? (Sorry if I'm grinding your nerves....) _________________
Well, a group can be received into RAM and then archived with a normal bcall. Receiving an app means manually writing flash and modifying the certificate. _________________ People think computers will keep them from making mistakes. They're wrong. With computers you make mistakes faster.
-Adam Osborne
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55764 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Posted: 29 Nov 2011 10:55:32 am Post subject:
Sorunome wrote:
I mean that it doesn't really connect with ticalc....i thought it should till now.....
I answered this in the other thread. It "freezes" while waiting for the root folder listing for ticalc.org; since I didn't implement that yet, it just keeps waiting. _________________
edit: well, after a few minutes of testing, I must say this works wonderfully, so far. No crashes , timeouts, or any errors of the sort... if anything, the only problems encountered is the lack of other people...
edit2: Just tested this with yeong, and while it seems we can send and receive requests, but, however, when one of us receives the "slaved to qazz/yeong" message, the other freezes. Any idea what happened, Kerm? it crashes as soon as you press "send request", to be specific. _________________
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Posted: 29 Nov 2011 09:18:03 pm Post subject:
2 things after watching the video!.
1. I love the music!
2. Is there anyway to have the calculator connect to a computer like that instead of using Ti (dis)connect or TiLP? _________________
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55764 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Posted: 30 Nov 2011 02:13:20 am Post subject:
Qazz and Yeong: Would you please try again tomorrow using a hub other than FTPHub? I suspect that I know what the problem is if that makes it work.
Aes_Sedia: Yes, that's one of the things Sandpaper can do. You will soon be able to directly download from ticalc.org and Cemetech with just your calculator and a gCn connection. _________________
Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 5108 Location: SFBA, California
Posted: 30 Nov 2011 02:16:41 am Post subject:
Any plans for calculator backup? Login with your Cemetech credentials and select backup or restore. Only RAM and Archive would be saved. Maybe variables, lists strings and pictures too? Cemetech could jump into cloud storage! _________________
Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55764 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
Posted: 30 Nov 2011 02:17:22 am Post subject:
comicIDIOT wrote:
Any plans for calculator backup? Login with your Cemetech credentials and select backup or restore. Only RAM and Archive would be saved. Maybe variables, lists strings and pictures too? Cemetech could jump into cloud storage!
A superb idea! I don't know if I want to add a button in Sandpaper to do a full backup, since it doesn't have a way to create folders on the target, but I could definitely see a third hub that shows a different folder to each calculator ID and allows file backups. Great thinking, comic. _________________
Qazz and Yeong: Would you please try again tomorrow using a hub other than FTPHub? I suspect that I know what the problem is if that makes it work.
Aes_Sedia: Yes, that's one of the things Sandpaper can do. You will soon be able to directly download from ticalc.org and Cemetech with just your calculator and a gCn connection.
okie dokie, I shall try as soon as I get back from school, assuming someone is available. _________________
Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 5108 Location: SFBA, California
Posted: 30 Nov 2011 07:02:11 am Post subject:
KermMartian wrote:
comicIDIOT wrote:
Any plans for calculator backup? Login with your Cemetech credentials and select backup or restore. Only RAM and Archive would be saved. Maybe variables, lists strings and pictures too? Cemetech could jump into cloud storage!
A superb idea! I don't know if I want to add a button in Sandpaper to do a full backup, since it doesn't have a way to create folders on the target, but I could definitely see a third hub that shows a different folder to each calculator ID and allows file backups. Great thinking, comic.
Maybe not just by calc ID, if someone gets a new TI-84 and wants to restore it to that of their old (bricked/broken) one... Though that likelihood would be rare. _________________
Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 636 Location: Somewhere out there
Posted: 30 Nov 2011 09:06:37 am Post subject:
The special thing of the zip-format is that it can be read "on the fly", that means that e.g. if you download one of these you can still open it is if it was a normal folder.
Other types to compress make the data even smaller, but they can't be used "on the fly".
Another proof that it is possible: on ticalc.org you can read all txt-files inside the zip thing. _________________
.zip files aren't at all like that, what you are talking about is how Windows treats it like a folder when you double click on it and how .zip files allow for random access. Windows just reads the file list and makes it seem like a folder, but no data has been actually extracted yet. As far as I know, no other operating system does this. They only get extracted when you try to open one of the files in the archive. _________________ CALCnet Tournament-38% deviantArt
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That's one program I really, really wish I had.
Once I finish putting the gCn Bridge for ticalc.org and Cemetech together, which I hope to work on in my evenings the next few days, I'll have an even cooler feature to demo. 
