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contra-sh
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| Posted: 09 Dec 2011 11:50:44 am Post subject: |
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| contra-sh wrote: | *bump*
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I'd be very interested in hearing progress too.  Or perhaps some judges that are too busy to judge might be willing to cede their spots to others who are not too busy.
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mdr1
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| Posted: 10 Dec 2011 06:35:23 am Post subject: |
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| KermMartian wrote: | | contra-sh wrote: | *bump*
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I'd be very interested in hearing progress too. Or perhaps some judges that are too busy to judge might be willing to cede their spots to others who are not too busy. |
As I said, I've judged 4 programs, so all the game's categorie's programs.
So I've again 3 programs.
Advance : 4/(4+3) = 4/7 = 0.57 = 57%
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contra-sh
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| Posted: 10 Dec 2011 11:10:37 am Post subject: |
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In fact this question was not for you mdr1 but for the other judges
You're the only one to frequently post here
I know that ryzum was very busy this week but I think he has done a part of the job.
Epic 7 I don't know. Not sure to have seen him on this thread...?
Aetios was removed from judge list (he asked me to do that).
So you're only 3 now (mdr1, epic7, ryzum)
mdr1: have you some contact with the other judges?
In one week, even if epic7 or ryzum haven't finished to judge, we will close the debate |
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Ryzum
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| Posted: 10 Dec 2011 11:29:38 am Post subject: |
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Hello everybody, I'm back!! I've done 3 programs by now!
I think I will finish in about 10 days (I know I'm slow, but I'm suite busy now) |
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mdr1
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| Posted: 10 Dec 2011 11:44:26 am Post subject: |
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Bon ben j'ai fini de juger, car y a 2 progs pour lesquels, la possibilité de les juger, nécessitant une TI-84+ (que j'espère gagner grâce à mon worms) ou un câble (fourni avec le lot TI-84+.fr), je ne l'ai guère eue. Dans l'espérance qu'un des juges dispose de cette possibilité.
So I've finished to judge the assembly programs, because I wasn't able to test 2 of them, because of my not having yet a TI-84+ (which I hope to win with my worms), maybe other judges will be able it to do, I hope so.
HS : pourquoi si peu d'anglais parlent français, un langage pourtant si répandu dans les communauté informatiques ?
See you later.
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| Posted: 10 Dec 2011 01:19:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I think I will finish in about 10 days (I know I'm slow, but I'm suite busy now) |
Please, 7 days maxi
| Quote: | | So I've finished to judge the assembly programs, because I wasn't able to test 2 of them, because of my not having yet a TI-84+ (which I hope to win with my worms), maybe other judges will be able it to do, I hope so. |
Which one? Grammer2 and sandpaper?
Have you tested these programs on emulator at least?
| Quote: | | HS : pourquoi si peu d'anglais parlent français, un langage pourtant si répandu dans les communauté informatiques ? |
Tu trouves ?? Je n'avais pas vraiment cette impression.
Et puis je pense que c'est parce que c'est nous Francais qui faisons cet effort  |
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chickendude
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| mdr1 wrote: | | HS : pourquoi si peu d'anglais parlent français, un langage pourtant si répandu dans les communauté informatiques ? |
Je crois qu'il n'y a que très peu de gens qui ont comme langue maternelle l'anglais et qui apprennent une autre langue, quoi qu'elle soit. Sûrement la plupart des programmeurs français (ou québécois, belges, suisses, etc.) parlent aussi très bien l'anglais 
Btw, has anyone tried NanoWar's Legends? It looks really promising (and as is the case with all NanoWar's stuff, is absolutely gorgeous!), check it out! I haven't checked out the utilities as i don't really have much use for them, but they all sound interesting. I'm glad to see several ASM entries in the contest |
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mdr1
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2011 01:42:14 pm Post subject: |
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| contra-sh wrote: | | Quote: | | So I've finished to judge the assembly programs, because I wasn't able to test 2 of them, because of my not having yet a TI-84+ (which I hope to win with my worms), maybe other judges will be able it to do, I hope so. |
Which one? Grammer2 and sandpaper?
Have you tested these programs on emulator at least? |
No, it doesn't give any problem for Grammer2 which is compatible.
The problems were with Plet needing a TI-84+ connected with a camera and with SandPaper needing a link cable.
Non, pas de problème avec Grammer2 qui est compatible. Ce sont Plet qui requiert une TI-84+ reliée à un appareil photo et SandPaper demandant un câble qui posent problème.
| contra-sh wrote: | | Et puis je pense que c'est parce que c'est nous Francais qui faisons cet effort |
Je trouve ça dommage que les anglais semblent rester fermés sur leur langue pour principe que c'est la plus répandue. D'ailleurs, par exemple les français, on n'apprend pas que l'anglais mais d'autre langues en plus (Espagnol, Allemand, Chinois etc.).
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Xeda112358
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| Posted: 11 Dec 2011 06:54:23 pm Post subject: |
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I am glad Grammer worked I hope I scored well!
Je parle un peu, mais le langue est un peu difficile pour moi. Aussi, tout les sites que je visite sont anglais D:
J'apprends français depuis... six ans? Je ne sais pas, j'oublie, mais je peux lire le plus part des posts.
(désolé pour ma grammaire, je n'aime pas utiliser un site pour traduire ma post.) |
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 13 Dec 2011 11:41:53 am Post subject: |
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I'm glad to hear that judging is progressing!
| Quote: | | HS : pourquoi si peu d'anglais parlent français, un langage pourtant si répandu dans les communauté informatiques ? |
| Quote: | Tu trouves ?? Je n'avais pas vraiment cette impression.
Et puis je pense que c'est parce que c'est nous Francais qui faisons cet effort |
| Quote: | | Je crois qu'il n'y a que très peu de gens qui ont comme langue maternelle l'anglais et qui apprennent une autre langue, quoi qu'elle soit. Sûrement la plupart des programmeurs français (ou québécois, belges, suisses, etc.) parlent aussi très bien l'anglais |
| Quote: | | Je trouve ça dommage que les anglais semblent rester fermés sur leur langue pour principe que c'est la plus répandue. D'ailleurs, par exemple les français, on n'apprend pas que l'anglais mais d'autre langues en plus (Espagnol, Allemand, Chinois etc.). |
I think it's not so much that we're lazy about foreign languages as that we learn all sorts of different languages. I learned French and Latin in school; many of us instead learn Spanish, French, Chinese, Japanese, or any of a host of other languages. I don't think it's either fortunate or unfortunate that English has become the de-facto language of technical fields like computer science, other than the difficulty of non-native English speakers in learning a language so rife with exceptions and confusing rules/lack of rules.
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mdr1
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| Posted: 13 Dec 2011 03:28:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I think it's not so much that we're lazy about foreign languages as that we learn all sorts of different languages. I learned French and Latin in school; many of us instead learn Spanish, French, Chinese, Japanese, or any of a host of other languages. I don't think it's either fortunate or unfortunate that English has become the de-facto language of technical fields like computer science, other than the difficulty of non-native English speakers in learning a language so rife with exceptions and confusing rules/lack of rules. Smile |
C'est sûr que l'anglais est plus facile que le français (pas à l'oral par contre), mais est-ce pour cela que les anglais sont moins doués en langues car habitués à une langue simple ? Possible.
Mais je pense que la simplicité n'est pas le plus gros critère de sélection d'une langue, la preuve, le français est une langue largement répandue en informatique. Elle n'est pourtant pas adaptée en noms de fonctions ou en commentaires et descriptions, mais fait en revanche preuve de complexité et de beauté grammaticale en dissertations et commentaires qu'ils soient littéraires ou concernant la programmation (par exemple, des tutoriel en bons français sur le java sont très riches).
Voilà, après on pas dire qu'une langue est meilleure qu'une autre en fonction de tel ou tel critère, chacune est ce qu'elle est.
PS : à tous les juges : il va commencer à falloir m'envoyer vos notes sur les programmes par MP sur le site du zcontest !![/quote]
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| Posted: 13 Dec 2011 03:34:45 pm Post subject: |
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| mdr1 wrote: | | HS : pourquoi si peu d'anglais parlent français, un langage pourtant si répandu dans les communauté informatiques ? |
Not to generalize, but I notice a lot of Americans and English Canadians only know one single language, English in this case, and won't ever bother doing a single effort to learn a second one, then whenever someone speak a different language, they start whining. Yet, in Quebec and several European countries, when people don't speak French, German or any other non-English language, many will do the effort of replying in English. Of course not everyone does that, however, and I even noticed people where I live complain when someone speak English too.
I'M glad a bunch of people try to learn multiple languages, since that can be pretty useful sometimes. You don't have to know them perfectly, but it's always good to know more than yes, no and toaster.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 13 Dec 2011 03:44:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mdr1 wrote: | | C'est sûr que l'anglais est plus facile que le français (pas à l'oral par contre), mais est-ce pour cela que les anglais sont moins doués en langues car habitués à une langue simple ? Possible. |
On the contrary, I think that English is harder than French, but as you say, I don't think simplicity is the criterium used to select commonly-used languages.
| Quote: | | Mais je pense que la simplicité n'est pas le plus gros critère de sélection d'une langue, la preuve, le français est une langue largement répandue en informatique. |
Really? Can you provide evidence of that? 
| Quote: | | Voilà, après on pas dire qu'une langue est meilleure qu'une autre en fonction de tel ou tel critère, chacune est ce qu'elle est. |
Agreed.
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mdr1
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| KermMartian wrote: | | mdr1 wrote: | | C'est sûr que l'anglais est plus facile que le français (pas à l'oral par contre), mais est-ce pour cela que les anglais sont moins doués en langues car habitués à une langue simple ? Possible. |
On the contrary, I think that English is harder than French, but as you say, I don't think simplicity is the criterium used to select commonly-used languages. |
Peut-être trouves-tu que l'anglais est plus difficile car c'est ta langue ? Parce-que niveau conjugaison, l'anglais n'est pas ce qu'il y a de plus dur... il n'y a pas de genres, et les mots sont courts et simples.
| KermMartian wrote: | | Quote: | | Mais je pense que la simplicité n'est pas le plus gros critère de sélection d'une langue, la preuve, le français est une langue largement répandue en informatique. |
Really? Can you provide evidence of that? |
La répandue du français est due en partie au hack que les français aiment beaucoup exercer (^^) ce qui augmente largement la communauté française informatique.
Exemples de sites informatiques français très connus :
http://www.siteduzero.com/
http://www.developpez.com/
+ des sites de hack
etc. etc. etc.
Sur les TI :
http://ti-bank.fr/
http://tiplanet.org/forum/portal.php
http://tout82.free.fr/
http://les83plus.free.fr/
http://www.ti83plus.online.fr/home.php
http://tiforge.info/tigruge/
http://www.ti-paradize.fr/
http://www.web-libre.org/rto2.php?id=7967cc8e3ab559e68cc944c44b1cf3e8
http://www.tisoftwares.net16.net/
etc. etc. etc.
Après, je pense que l'anglais est tout de même situé légèrement devant le français en domaine informatique, mais le français est tout de même très bien placé.
PS : à tous les juges : il va falloir me remettre les notes par MP !!
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| mdr1 wrote: | | Toujours rien de reçu... |
 Who are you waiting for results from? Have you heard anything at all from epic7 yet? I think the collision between final exams at the end of the fall semester in the US with the judging is probably not helping either.
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Only ryzum it seems...
Because aeTIos haven't had the possibility to do the job and epic7 I haven't heard anything about him...
But we have at least 2 judges per categories who have done the job (more in basic) so it's fine |
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