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shendogg42
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Joined: 26 May 2012 Posts: 3
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Posted: 23 Jun 2012 01:26:56 pm Post subject: |
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| rfdave wrote: | | shendogg42 wrote: | | comicIDIOT wrote: | Welcome, Shen! Would you mind sharing your improvements on that quadratic formula with us?
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Well, I started relearning TI Basic from scratch for the purposes of this program, so it started simple, just giving decimal approximations and telling whether the solutions were rational/irrational and real/complex. (I never have figured out how to accurately tell if the answers are rational or not given irrational coefficients. Any ideas?) Then I wrote an unrelated program to reduce numbers under a square root, and I realized I could combine the two to get exact quadratic solutions.
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Shendogg42-You might be interested in this paper by Dr. Middlebrook about better expressions for the quadratic equation
http://mit.edu/6.969/www/readings/quadratic-formula.pdf
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Wow! This has given me a lot to think about...
I took calculus in high school, but I'm just this fall starting to take it again in college. I'm still in sort of a lower math mentality and alternate forms of the quadratic equations hadn't occured to me, and while minimizing the radical was one of my main goals, getting rid of it as a goal hadn't occurred to me. This paper also speaks to the issue of accuracy and rounding errors, which is a big part of my problem with trying to get the calcutor to determine rationality.
I'll probably have to read over this several times to really understand it, and the electrical engineering stuff is completely out of my league. But thank you, this helps me a lot! |
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insrisg
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Joined: 14 Jun 2012 Posts: 7 Location: University at Buffalo
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Posted: 25 Jun 2012 07:01:50 am Post subject: Intro |
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Hi, Gerry Rising here. This is in response to the invitation to introduce ourselves. (Some of this will repeat what I posted elsewhere on this site.)
I have written three books that relate to the TI-84 and TI-83 calculators: (1) INSIDE YOUR CALCULATOR (Wiley) is a serious presentation of pre-calculus mathematics algorithms. (2) PROGRAM YOUR CALCULATOR is an eBook specific to TI-BASIC. (3) ABOUT MATHEMATICS is a text for college liberal arts students which is associated with over 150 canned TI-84 programs. (The latter two books were developed with Eileen Schoaff and Deborah Moore-Russo. I will be happy to provide any member of this site with .pdf copies of the latter two books on request. You can find more about these projects at their respective websites.)
Until a few days ago I was in the process of having ABOUT MATHEMATICS published by the Math Assn of America. We had survived and responded to a first round of reviews and a second round reviewer was checking program access. Based on what he found, now MAA has rejected the ms. because of technical problems related to TI's support of their calculators. In particular, the reviewer noted: all of our programs have been made obsolete by the new calculator OS and downloading our program groups from Windows computers is very difficult.
I now also find that the new TI-84 OS does not even support simple new programs. (Try this program For(I,1,4):Disp "GO":End and the calculator will print an error message.) And TI-Connect is not provided for the latest Mac OS. As of now the only way we can get our programs to run on new calculators is to download to them the old TI calculator OS from our calculators.
The effect of all this for us is that TI has sacrificed three years of our work on the latter project. All may not be lost, however. Our long range goal (MAA included) was to develop this text as an eBook with the BASIC programs linked to the presentation. Students would read the text and run the linked programs on their same iPad or whatever device they were using.
I believe that there are two parts to this goal: (1) Development of an app that allows users to prepare BASIC programs and associate them with textual material, and (2) Use of ABOUT MATHEMATICS as a stalking horse for this kind of presentation.
We continue to look for programmers who would work with us to accomplish these goals. The text is done; the sophisticated BASIC programs are ready for translation; we need now to develop or adapt to a platform, translate the programs and publish the book. We seek one or more experienced programmers to assist us with these tasks. If you are interested or know anyone who would be interested, please contact me at <insrisg@buffalo.edu>.
Gerald R. Rising
SUNY Distinguished Teaching Professor Emeritus
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michiel
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Joined: 07 Mar 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Netherlands
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Posted: 26 Jun 2012 12:49:17 pm Post subject: Introducing myself, Michiel Drost. |
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Hello all,
My name is Michiel Drost,
I'm 24 years old.
Ive been a member for a while, but primarily because of SourceCoder 2.5. I've been a C/C++ coder (so I'm also familiar with java(script) Flash AS2 and 3, etc.) So I purchased an TI-84+ and appearantly I can program stuff on it. Awesome!
At the moment I teach mathematics in secondary school in various degrees. At times, my student ask me about digital logic (because they play Minecraft) and we would make an appointment after school so I can hook them up with the basics. They seem to like it, and now they've been asking about boolean algebra.
Anyhow, geetings from the Netherlands. See ya around. |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 26 Jun 2012 03:50:48 pm Post subject: |
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Michiel, welcome to Cemetech! Interesting where life takes you; even though I'm a year older than you, I'm still working on my PhD while you're out their training young minds in the arts of math, for which I commend you. You can indeed program your TI-84+, and although I hate sounding like I'm constantly promoting my own work, I think I've put together a great intro-to-programming / intro-to-calculator-programming book, heading to the printer in a few weeks: http://cemete.ch/book . It teaches general programming concepts like Boolean algebra, program flow and design, user interfaces, and all that good stuff via calculator programming, which is how I and most of my compadres on Cemetech learned such things. Greetings from the Netherlands indeed, and if you ever do any recreational Minecraft, we have a creative server of our own and a PvP/survival server elsewhere that we frequent. _________________
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HansVolkerstein
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Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 8 Location: In Siwa Oasis
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Posted: 27 Jun 2012 09:36:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Hello, I am Hans. I like Wolfenstein. Aside from that, I own a TI-84+ and a TI-89 Titanium. I learned to program BASIC for both. I'm in progress of learning C# and Python. |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 27 Jun 2012 10:01:51 pm Post subject: |
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| HansVolkerstein wrote: | | Hello, I am Hans. I like Wolfenstein. Aside from that, I own a TI-84+ and a TI-89 Titanium. I learned to program BASIC for both. I'm in progress of learning C# and Python. | Welcome to Cemetech, Hans! How extensively have you explored TI-BASIC on the TI-84+ and the TI-89ti? Any cool projects to share with us, or things that you would like to learn? What prompted your pursuit of C# and Python? _________________
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HansVolkerstein
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Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 8 Location: In Siwa Oasis
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Posted: 27 Jun 2012 10:04:24 pm Post subject: |
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| KermMartian wrote: | | HansVolkerstein wrote: | | Hello, I am Hans. I like Wolfenstein. Aside from that, I own a TI-84+ and a TI-89 Titanium. I learned to program BASIC for both. I'm in progress of learning C# and Python. | Welcome to Cemetech, Hans! How extensively have you explored TI-BASIC on the TI-84+ and the TI-89ti? Any cool projects to share with us, or things that you would like to learn? What prompted your pursuit of C# and Python? |
For z80, almost everything. On 68k I usually create math programs that arent much involved. I decided to enter the world of PC programming and one of my friends told me C# and Python was a good place to start. _________________ Level 5 Field-Ops ready to fire-for-effect.
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 29 Jun 2012 10:02:35 am Post subject: |
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Then your friend is correct, and perhaps you should bring him here as well. Would you care to share some of your TI-BASIC projects with us, particularly the z80 ones? We have a Your Projects subforum for incomplete and completed projects, and the file Archives for completed programs that people can download. _________________
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vebveb
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Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 24
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Posted: 03 Jul 2012 09:06:40 am Post subject: |
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Hello,
As some know, I programmed LuaFX on algebra FX 2 and on the calculators of the fx9860 series.
I own a algebra FX 2, I began with basic then MLC and C.
I first programmed LuaFX on algebra FX 2 with the goal to have something faster than MLC and with much more capabilities (float numbers, fast scrolling, ...). I optimized my interpretor in many ways (it was first slower than MLC and now it is much more faster).
Then I did a similar interpretor for the fx9860 family with the goal to have a fully compatible interpretor between the two families. |
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FinaleTI
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Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 14
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Posted: 10 Jul 2012 09:04:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi all, I'm FinaleTI.
I figured it was time I registered here, since I lurk here pretty often.
Some of you might recognize me from Omnimaga, but in case you're unfamiliar with me, I'm an Axe programmer, as well as a BASIC/Hybrid BASIC programmer.
I have a few projects currently, though my main focus is currently my Axe RPG, Nostalgia, which is a homage to classic calculator RPGs, featuring two seperate dimensions, one where all the graphics are ASCII, in tribute to BASIC RPGs, and in the other, 8x8 monochrome tiles are used in tribute to ASM RPGs.
I'm also a Minecrafter, currently a member of the new Arcadia. In Minecraftia, I'm known as DMuckerman. |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 11 Jul 2012 11:08:43 am Post subject: |
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vebveb: Can't wait to talk to you more about Lua and Lua on Casio calculators! I think you'll be a great resource for if/when some of us work on porting Lua to the Prizm.
FinaleTI: It's great to finally see you around here. As you probably know, we also have the SAX chat widget on the side linked to the #cemetech IRC channel on Efnet. Do you have any cool programs underway or recently completed? If so, you should post Your Projects topic(s) about said programs and games. And it's of course great to have you on Evo/Yogiverse as an Arcadian! _________________
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FinaleTI
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Joined: 10 Jul 2012 Posts: 14
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Posted: 11 Jul 2012 04:58:29 pm Post subject: |
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Recently completed projects, I have none. Nostalgia is quite the undertaking, so my other projects are on hiatus because of it.
My previously completed programs are two viciously difficult tunnel games, Blur and Collision Course. I plan on combining the two into a single app at some point, as well as fixing a few of the problems Blur has. Not to mention Blur is very outdated, last being compiled with Axe 0.4.x.
Here are a few screenies of the two:
The Collision Course screenie is actually running at 25% speed. It's near impossible to play at 100% speed on Wabbit, though I find it perfectly playable on hardware.
I'll see about getting a topic for Nostalgia started here soon. |
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DJ_O

Retired TI-83+ coder

Joined: 18 Mar 2005 Posts: 1485 Location: Quebec (Canada)
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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vorsaykal
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Joined: 16 Jul 2012 Posts: 3 Location: Canada
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Posted: 16 Jul 2012 03:00:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hello! My name is Nathan. I'm 16 years old, going on to Grade 11 in the fall. I did a Grade 11 CS course during my first semester this year, which confirmed my interest in programming.
I've always been quite interested in computers, spending (far too many, some say) hours on one. I spent many years on Windows, but I always found that I could never turn it into what I wanted it to be like, even with the plethora of registry edits, background processes that ate my RAM and spending days shifting through settings. Nothing satisfied my desires, so I switched to Linux and it is awesome. It lead me more into computers. I started to learn things a fair bit deeper about computers.
This summer, I have decided to spend majority of it doing things along the lines of programming, and catching up on all those "stupid" (according to me at the time) math concepts I never bothered doing during school. So far, I've been having a blast learning a bunch of math concepts (thanks Khan Academy and ProjectEuler) , but I've still been looking more to do.
Today, while looking for my flash drive on my messy desk, I found my Casio Prizm that I bought a month back and decided I'd take a shot at programming on it. I downloaded the SDK, loaded a simple program and hit an error, so I figured I'd find a community to grow off of. After lurking this site for an hour or so, I was very impressed. This site is so much more wonderful than I hoped to find; seems so much more friendly than any forum I've ever seen before.
Anyway, as for what I know: My Grade 11 Computer Science course was in Java, and I understand the core basics of it. Unfortunately, I've been struggling a bit on getting objects working well with graphics for a Table Top Strategy game I am hoping to have finished by the end of next year, for my final project (Yay for having access to all assignments for a class a year before it). Recently I've been using Python, though, since it's a lot easier, cleaner and just generally more fun. I've been doing problems on ProjectEuler with it, and it's yet to failed me.
I hope to go to University of Waterloo in a few years, and get a degree in CS, although I'm not entirely sure what I want to go do with it yet, but that will come with time. For now, I'd like to do a bit of everything, and programming a calculator seems like a pretty epic start.
I should be able to progress fairly quickly once I get the make compiling error out of the way, even though I only know a few fundamental concepts of C (all thanks to Java), I think I'll catch on. |
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KermMartian

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Joined: 14 Mar 2005 Posts: 55736 Location: Earth, Sol, Milky Way
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Posted: 16 Jul 2012 03:12:32 pm Post subject: |
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As shaun_ and IkariTari said, that's one of the best introduction posts we've seen in a long time. I'm glad that you experience us as friendly and welcoming; we try to make sure that we maintain a high standard of intelligent discussion, but have respectful fun while we do so. I'm also very happy that you've been migrating from Java towards Python; long-time denizens of Cemetech know that I'm constantly praising the latter at the expense of the former language's many shortcomings. I'm working on a PhD in CS myself, having done my undergraduate work and a Masters in electrical engineering, so I think that's a great idea. I think you should probably try to at least slightly narrow down what you're interested in, but for starters, I think some C programming with the Prizm should be great. I look forward to being among the Cemetechians helping you out, and to the nifty projects you'll surely put together. Welcome! _________________
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kgmstwo

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Joined: 27 Jul 2012 Posts: 7 Location: Texas
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Posted: 28 Jul 2012 12:28:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I'm kgmstwo.
I have come here to Cemetech to understand hooks better, especially parserhook. I have a blue 84+SE, which I program in ti basic and assembly.
So, what does kgmstwo mean? Its my real life name: Newton! |
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Stan in Dryden
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Joined: 29 Jul 2012 Posts: 20 Location: Dryden NY
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Posted: 30 Jul 2012 05:55:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hi, I'm Stan, and I registered just today. I found this forum through Googling for an error message, "Unknown tag value in program image", that I got from TI Program Editor. I'm amazed how quickly I got an answer that was right on point.
I teach statistics at a community college in upstate New York. The college has standardized on the 83/83+/84+ family for courses from college algebra through Calculus I, including statistics. I own a TI-89, and use a TI-84+ belonging to the college. My TI-83 Web page is at http://www.tc3.edu/instruct/sbrown/ti83/, and for general statistics http://www.tc3.edu/instruct/sbrown/stat/ -- I also have some calculus at http://www.tc3.edu/instruct/sbrown/calc/
I'll post under Projects when I get a chance, but most of what I've done has been for my classes -- fourteen statistics utilities, vector arithmetic with plots, Newton's Method for solving equations, that sort of thing. So far I have them only for the 83/83+/84+ family, but I'd like to create 89 family versions one day. |
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KermMartian

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Posted: 30 Jul 2012 09:06:24 pm Post subject: |
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| kgmstwo wrote: | Hi, I'm kgmstwo.
I have come here to Cemetech to understand hooks better, especially parserhook. I have a blue 84+SE, which I program in ti basic and assembly.
So, what does kgmstwo mean? Its my real life name: Newton! | Welcome to Cemetech, Newton slash kgmstwo! I'm always very happy to have another assembly (and BASIC) programmer around Cemetech. I look forward to seeing all the nifty programs you'll work on; anything from your past catalog you would care to share with us?
| Stan in Dryden wrote: | | Hi, I'm Stan, and I registered just today. I found this forum through Googling for an error message, "Unknown tag value in program image", that I got from TI Program Editor. I'm amazed how quickly I got an answer that was right on point. | Welcome, Stan! We pride ourselves on trying to be both speedy and helpful, so I'm glad to hear that.
Great stuff all around. I'm a denizen of New York City myself, and I have done academic work in Binghamton, which I see you're not far from. This is a discussion for a later date, but perhaps we could work out some sort of cross-linking between Cemetech and your page respectively for people searching for math- and programming-related information.
| Quote: | | I'll post under Projects when I get a chance, but most of what I've done has been for my classes -- fourteen statistics utilities, vector arithmetic with plots, Newton's Method for solving equations, that sort of thing. So far I have them only for the 83/83+/84+ family, but I'd like to create 89 family versions one day. | Those are still very useful programs, and although there are probably already some versions already around the community, I'd say versions designed by a math professor are likely to cover more corner cases than more amateur incarnations. And more 68k (TI-89) programs in the community is always a positive force, as TI has more or less disowned the entire line. _________________
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The_Coded
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Joined: 30 Jul 2012 Posts: 205
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Posted: 30 Jul 2012 10:05:07 pm Post subject: |
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Erm, hello I am brad..nothing really to say except that I've been interested in computer science since I was 7 and that I have been enthralled by the z80 calcs, and am trying to learn to program for one  _________________
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