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merthsoft


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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 11:45:09 am    Post subject: DecBot
So I've decided it's time to officially announce DecBot. Many of you who frequent IRC already know about good ol' DecBot; he keeps track of people's "karma" or "scores". If someone does something cool, you can say "name++" (where "name" is the name of the person you are trying to give points to), and their score will increment. Here are some commands that people in IRC can do (note: People on SAX can give people points, but can't do any of the commands):

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Voice/Op only:
!top - Returns the top 3 users

!link nameToLink nameToLinkTo - links nameToLink to nameToLinkTo, so that nameToLink++ actually increments nameToLinkTo.

!save - Saves the names and links to file (this is done automatically)

!reload - Reloads the names and links from file, overwriting the current scores and links (this is useful for me when I hand-edit scores or links)

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!karma name - Returns the score name

You can also check the scores at http://merthsoft.com/DecBot.php

A big thanks to Kerm for letting this bot exist and for programming help. Also thanks go out to Tari and Jonimus (TheStorm) for RegEx help.

Let me know if you have any suggestions, and please don't abuse him.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 12:50:13 pm    Post subject:
When Shaun came up with this idea I thought it was a great one, and his implementation does full justice to the idea, in my opinion. My only regret is that Sonlen doesn't seem to like having a score of -300, which reminds me of another point: currently you can only increment (name++) people's karma, not decrement (name--). We've tossed around the idea of decrementing being a voice/op-only command, but so far haven't done anything about it. Any thoughts?
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 12:52:45 pm    Post subject:
There will have to be a specific check for that, because saxjax is opped, so anyone using saxjax would be able to decrement. That's an easy check to make, though, I'm mostly just adding a post so that I won't forget.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 12:54:42 pm    Post subject:
merthsoft wrote:
There will have to be a specific check for that, because saxjax is opped, so anyone using saxjax would be able to decrement. That's an easy check to make, though, I'm mostly just adding a post so that I won't forget.
Oh, I hadn't thought of that; it's an excellent point. The main reason I was thinking we might want decrementing would be to counteract any abuse of incrementing, but if it's too much trouble, it's not worth it.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 12:56:32 pm    Post subject:
Well, if there is any abuse, I'm able to hand-edit the links and scores, so I undo anything going wrong. I'll just have to be told. It's really not a much work either way.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 04:25:25 pm    Post subject:
Fair enough; your call on whichever you'd rather do.
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Posted: 28 Dec 2010 04:34:05 pm    Post subject:
Interesting, this will be like respect on omni, but for chat. Nice idea, although I foresee some problems with people whining about their points, so I THINK there should be some sort of rule to kick people like that (in my opinion)


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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 11:37:00 am    Post subject:
*bump*

Yay, karma works perfectly imho. Good work Merth Smile

now, just to be sure, only ops can make Kerma go down?
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 11:39:12 am    Post subject:
Only I can make Karma go down.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 12:06:28 pm    Post subject:
merthsoft wrote:
Only I can make Karma go down.
Indeed, which I think is a good solution.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 12:11:29 pm    Post subject:
oh, thats nice then. I expect everyone to have -38795y25820935 forever Razz
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 01:14:36 pm    Post subject:
As punishment for abusing DecBot and linking Merth => Sonlen, now I have to write "I will not abuse DecBot" 100 times.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 01:15:57 pm    Post subject:
And you can't cheat and use a program to write it, either.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 01:16:31 pm    Post subject:
merthsoft wrote:
And you can't cheat and use a program to write it, either.
Darn, you saw right through my plan. I was going to write it in Perl to make Nikky happy.
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 01:35:20 pm    Post subject:
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As punishment for abusing DecBot and linking Merth => Sonlen, now I have to write "I will not abuse DecBot" 100 times.


huh, what do you mean?
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Posted: 30 Dec 2010 10:31:12 pm    Post subject:
Seems interesting, but seeing behavior from Omni people I will not name, you'll have to find a solution about people who whine everytime their karma decreases or when it doesn't increase fast enough. It could be a rule disallowing such thing, while it could simply be telling the person to shrug it.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2010 07:50:55 am    Post subject:
That's one of the biggest reasons why I don't want to include a "--"; that way people can only go up. And since it's not as visible as the points on Omni, hopefully that'll abate the whining.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2010 10:14:38 am    Post subject:
DJ Omnimaga wrote:
Seems interesting, but seeing behavior from Omni people I will not name, you'll have to find a solution about people who whine everytime their karma decreases or when it doesn't increase fast enough. It could be a rule disallowing such thing, while it could simply be telling the person to shrug it.
Since it's only on IRC, not on the fora, people don't seem to really worry too much about it yet other than having a bit of fun with it, which is just as it should be. Hopefully it doesn't become a problem.
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Posted: 31 Dec 2010 10:21:10 am    Post subject:
Fine then, but lets just be a little wary for people like that, just in case `-`
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Posted: 31 Dec 2010 07:04:10 pm    Post subject:
qazz42 wrote:
Fine then, but lets just be a little wary for people like that, just in case `-`
I suppose, but I feel like any member that's immature enough to want to be abusive with karma or feel insulted about it probably isn't on IRC or aware of DecBot at all. Smile
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