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BrandonW


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Posted: 09 Jul 2010 01:34:41 am    Post subject: DoorsCS USB Mouse Shell Expansion Contest Entry

I probably shouldn't be submitting entries to a contest where I'm donating the prize, but I'm entering a USB mouse shell expansion for DoorsCS as my contest entry. It DOES NOT rely on usb8x being oncalc, so you just have the program oncalc and you can use an attached USB mouse with your TI-84 Plus/Silver Edition from within the DoorsCS shell.

It supports left- and right-clicking, and I intend to add a settings menu (triggered by middle or left+right clicks) to adjust mouse sensitivity and that sort of thing.

Perhaps I could add some sort of gesture support so you can launch things quickly by drawing a circle or moving the mouse to the top left corner quickly or something like that.

I made a YouTube video demoing it (I know it's crappy quality, it was 2AM, on my phone, and I was tired):


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Posted: 09 Jul 2010 01:38:31 am    Post subject:

Very nice, BrandonW. Smile I like some of these feature ideas, particularly the gestures. I notice that you noticed it didn't work at the About small window - that's because that same window is invoked when Doors CS is installed, so I can't always guarantee that SEs are initialized. It'll take me about 90 seconds to remedy that, doing it now.

Edit: See? Done.
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010 05:24:41 pm    Post subject:

Rather interesting progress you have made on this! Hopefully it continues until you achieve what you want with it. =]
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Posted: 09 Jul 2010 05:33:49 pm    Post subject:

Any particular reason that my video comes up as a related video?


Any way, GG brandon!!
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 12:20:01 am    Post subject:

this should get kllrnohj to stop b*tching about the mouse interface in DCS Wink
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 01:16:49 am    Post subject:

elfprince13 wrote:
this should get kllrnohj to stop b*tching about the mouse interface in DCS Wink


I don't think he cares anymore; when was the last time he (or a large portion of this board nowadays) picked up a calculator?
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 04:21:48 am    Post subject:

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this should get kllrnohj to stop b*tching about the mouse interface in DCS Wink


I don't think he cares anymore; when was the last time he (or a large portion of this board nowadays) picked up a calculator?
Just yesterday, but it wasn't a graphing calculator. I last touched a graphing calculator three years ago. Laughing
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 05:22:54 am    Post subject:

elfprince13 wrote:
this should get kllrnohj to stop b*tching about the mouse interface in DCS Wink
In theory, but Kllrnohj's life-blood is complaining about things. Smile
@comic: Well, shame on you! Get going on your contest entry!
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 11:28:06 pm    Post subject:

I want one of these for my 84. I am a HUGE fan of msd8x and usb8x. They are one of the most awesome programs for an 84. When Brandon enters it, I will have to get this!!
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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 11:59:34 pm    Post subject:

adept wrote:
I want one of these for my 84. I am a HUGE fan of msd8x and usb8x. They are one of the most awesome programs for an 84. When Brandon enters it, I will have to get this!!
It doesn't even take that much hardware, just a miniUSB and a USB female plug hacked together (carefully, I hope. Razz). I'm considering making some of these, nicely constructed and engineered, as contest runner-up prizes. What do you guys think?
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Posted: 11 Jul 2010 01:19:56 am    Post subject:

KermMartian wrote:
adept wrote:
I want one of these for my 84. I am a HUGE fan of msd8x and usb8x. They are one of the most awesome programs for an 84. When Brandon enters it, I will have to get this!!
It doesn't even take that much hardware, just a miniUSB and a USB female plug hacked together (carefully, I hope. Razz). I'm considering making some of these, nicely constructed and engineered, as contest runner-up prizes. What do you guys think?
I love the idea, I'd hope you'd include the circutry to allow for an external power source as well so the calc's batterys are not drained so badly.
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Posted: 11 Jul 2010 01:37:10 am    Post subject:

This is really cool! Does the calculator really provide enough power to handle an optical mouse though? Or would this be trackball only?
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Posted: 11 Jul 2010 10:13:11 am    Post subject:

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This is really cool! Does the calculator really provide enough power to handle an optical mouse though? Or would this be trackball only?
As TheStorm mentioned, I would make the ones with power injection, so you don't need to worry about whether the calculator has enough power or not. Smile Quigibo, I'm unclear from BrandonW's video whether he was powering the mouse from the calculator.
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Posted: 11 Jul 2010 09:11:28 pm    Post subject:

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Posted: 10 Jul 2010 10:59:34 pm Post subject:
adept wrote:
I want one of these for my 84. I am a HUGE fan of msd8x and usb8x. They are one of the most awesome programs for an 84. When Brandon enters it, I will have to get this!!
It doesn't even take that much hardware, just a miniUSB and a USB female plug hacked together (carefully, I hope. ). I'm considering making some of these, nicely constructed and engineered, as contest runner-up prizes. What do you guys think?

I think that'd be really cool. I use one I got for like 8$. It was expensive for a tiny 3 inch cable, and it doesn't have external power. I know if I won, I would want one. But I am not in the contest... don't have time to spend, and know I won't win... So if you have time to do that, go for it Kerm!![/quote]
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Posted: 11 Jul 2010 11:44:52 pm    Post subject:

I might as well. If I can find an nice cheap source for USB cables, maybe $0.99 on eBay and convince the seller to combine shipping, this would be very economically viable. Very Happy
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010 12:00:01 am    Post subject:

The calculator is powering the USB mouse, yes.

The calculator can power any device that's 100mA or less (and basically every USB mouse in existence does that).

The issue comes with some flash drives (especially SD->USB adapters) and so on, which can use 200mA and up. A PC can power a USB device up to 500mA. Anything beyond that requires a separate power source.

This works just fine with wireless mice as well, which I tested with this and it works. EDIT: basically, if you can use it with the mouse demo in USBTools, it'll work with this as well.
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010 12:57:16 am    Post subject:

I was thinking something along the lines of that power injector you have on your site, BrandonW, hereabouts:

http://brandonw.net/calculators/
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010 02:24:52 am    Post subject:

KermMartian wrote:
I was thinking something along the lines of that power injector you have on your site, BrandonW, hereabouts:

http://brandonw.net/calculators/


Yes, I can confirm that it works. I have an SD->USB adapter that requires 500mA, and I'm able to use it with msd8x through this. (Without the special cable, I can still use msd8x to read from the SD card, but attempts to write to the card cause the calculator to crash, because the adapter pulls more power to do sector writes (which I find fascinating, and makes sense)).
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010 08:15:34 am    Post subject:

I'd bet the biggest power draw is actually doing sector erases, no? Is that incorrect?
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Posted: 12 Jul 2010 09:40:36 pm    Post subject:

I couldn't speculate because I don't know what the drive is doing internally, I can just tell you that it chokes on a sector write command.
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