DCS Lite

Insanity · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 06:31:26 pm Post subject: DCS Lite

It would be nice if there a light version of DCS.

DCS could be optimized down to one page (an no Easter eggs Razz

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Other ideas:
- An option to block the memory menu (or require a password).
- Be able to start other programs up at start-up ( including archived stuff ASM programs that aren't no-stub ).

KermMartian · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 06:34:27 pm Post subject: Re: DCS Lite

jfabi82 · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 07:14:29 pm Post subject:

No, I wouldn't use a DCS Lite (though it would be nice for those, eh, poor 83+ users). Quite the contrary, let's turn this into 3 app-pages! Very Happy

Anyhow, you could, for starters, take out support for SE's and take out the CalcNet thing, I don't know how much you'd save there. Or, you COULD just leave it to brandonw to finish up Noshell, but you wouldn't want THAT, now would ya? Laughing

But seriously, integrated pw protection is a MUST. And (jumping to 6.2) how about execution of Ion, MOS, and DCS ASM prgms from within BASIC prgms (or is that what No----l is for? Wink

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Pseudoprogrammer · Awesomesauce Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 890

The only way it would be remotely suitable for a 3 page shell, is if it offered enough libraries to make for ungodly small program sizes. And mabye a 'DCS lite' could be a version of dcs that didnt have MOS routines (or mabye ION if they take up a lot of space) so as you could play DCS games only on DCS lite.

foamy3 · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 10:13:13 pm Post subject:

Pseudoprogrammer · Awesomesauce Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 890

Kerm, how large would dcs 'lite' be if you took out MOS routines and ION routines, if small enough, you could add extra replacement DCS routines.

Kllrnohj · $/=\$ PH34R |\/|3 Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 8189

Pseudoprogrammer · Awesomesauce Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 890

I suggested removing calcnet to Kerm, but thats why I asked the size of the Ion routines, because I know they are heavily used.

KermMartian · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 11:01:18 pm Post subject:

Pseudoprogrammer · Awesomesauce Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 890

How big are the DCS routines Shock

TheStorm · NOU! Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Posts: 2375

Don't forget the GUI.
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jfabi82 · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 11:23:35 pm Post subject:

KermMartian · Posted: 19 Jun 2007 11:39:26 pm Post subject:

The GUI API routines are perhaps 12k all together. The program running support is about 5-6k total, and the rest of the interface must be 3-5k.
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Sting::Ray · Posted: 23 Jun 2007 02:22:37 pm Post subject:

I think a DCS 'lite' version would generate a lot of anger from n00bs. Like, they download it, but then can't run their stuff 'cause they're n00bs, and then they flame Kerm about it everywhere. I think just one version is good, it reduces the amount of documentation needed, and will keep people from getting angry. If they want a one-app-page shell, they should use MirageOS, and just live with the lack of cool GUI. That's just my opinion, though, so I'm not saying Kerm shouldn't make a DCS 'lite', I just don't think it would be very wise.
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Tari · Posted: 24 Jun 2007 03:42:28 pm Post subject:

If it's possible to keep it in 1 page without removing any routines (with the exception of CN2/GCN, those could be removed), I say go for it and just strip out most of the shell's actual GUI; just make it run programs.
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Delnar_Ersike · Posted: 24 Jun 2007 03:47:30 pm Post subject:

Tari · Posted: 24 Jun 2007 03:47:38 pm Post subject:

Exactly, but without hooks. Do something like the ION GUI; keep it small and simple
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Kllrnohj · $/=\$ PH34R |\/|3 Joined: 24 May 2005 Posts: 8189

I'm not sure what is going to happen with GCN. At this point that is more up to Kerm to figure out how he wants to make the calc<->comp interface. Initially he didn't want a separate protocol and wanted the computer to act like a calculator on the network, but that requires either using an old link cable (such as a parallel port) and custom drivers, or the creation of a custom interface/controller (such as the USB PIC I made but never coded to work with Cn2)
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KermMartian · Posted: 24 Jun 2007 04:30:01 pm Post subject:

As I've said several times, the CALCnet routines take up a grand total of around 400 bytes. At this point, a DCS Lite edition is not technically feasible, although it may be at some point in the future. For now, to save confusion, I'm going to stick with a single branch.
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