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comicIDIOT
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 Posted: 08 Dec 2009 09:17:55 pm Post subject: SAX |
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Kerm was expressing interest in getting SAX re-intergrated into the #cemetech IRC channel. I came up with an interesting method of getting SAX to work some-what through IRC.
Each SAX widget will have it's own user name - Cemetech, Rivereye, UnSS, etc - that would appear in the channel. Lastly, there would be another bot that is SAX. The SAX widgets will get their information through the SAX Bot.
A new admin panel for phpBB Sax (if one exists) will allow the admins to specify if IRC Chat is posted to & from SAX out of & into the IRC channel. Perhaps a list of users that will able to [private] message SAX and be able to post to - and see chatter on - phpBB SAX.
If the admin(s) allow for SAX to post IRC chatter, then it'd show up as normal SAX chat as opposed to before:
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TI:M:E (#) User: Words
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TI:M:E IRC: User: Words
Where (#) Would signify coming from an IRC channel with an <acronym> tag detailing the respective IRC channel (if more than one channel, mayhaps?)
It's a rough idea that will need some hammering and tweaking.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 06:52:46 pm Post subject: |
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I can't believe that I never noticed this topic before.  Too bad we already dealt with this with the (#) deal.
Anyway, I'm bumping this because it's an aptly-named thread to publicize that SAX now does highlighting. Mention at least the first four letters of someone's nick, and the text will appear on a black instead of maroon background in that person's SAX. In addition, if the tab with Cemetech is out of focus, the titlebar will flash until the window regains focus. Feedback? Is it annoying? I'd be happy to remove the flashing if people don't like it, or make it stop after a certain number of flashes.
Also, as a reminder, SAX does suck down a fair bit of bandwidth and MySQL load, so it's always nice to try not to leave 10 Cemetech tabs open on your computer and go away on vacation.  Cheers!
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Eeems
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 07:06:57 pm Post subject: |
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how about instead of having it flash "-----" you have it flash something like "NICK poked you"?
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 07:11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| KermMartian wrote: |
Also, as a reminder, SAX does suck down a fair bit of bandwidth and MySQL load, so it's always nice to try not to leave 10 Cemetech tabs open on your computer and go away on vacation. Cheers! |
On Omnimaga, after 4 minutes, OmnomIRC stops refreshing and displays a "Session timed out. Click here to refresh." message instead. I think the online list still updates, but every minute, so it's not too bad.
I think the session timed out thing is buggy, though, because even when chatting, it still displays after 4 minutes anyway. Regardless, it helps if someone left Omni open with 10 tabs and went away for 2 weeks.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 09:28:14 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, I was thinking about making about a 30 minute timer or a one hour timer or so. I probably will do so.
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qazz42
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 09:33:43 pm Post subject: |
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DJ, how about you extend the time out to, say, 10 or 20 mins?
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 10:26:52 pm Post subject: |
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| qazz42 wrote: | | DJ, how about you extend the time out to, say, 10 or 20 mins? |
I think it might not be DJ's perogative, but rather Netham's, since he's the one whose bandwidth is getting hosed.
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TsukasaZX
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 11:43:12 pm Post subject: |
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Uh... Kerm... We've got a small problem....
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 11:46:36 pm Post subject: |
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| KeithJohansen wrote: | Uh... Kerm... We've got a small problem....
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Have you F5'd (or Ctrl-F5 in Chrome, I think) your window recently to grab the latest saxjax.js? If you do so and the problem persists, I'll try to trace it down.
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TsukasaZX
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 11:48:27 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, this just happened once so far and I'm not sure it'll happen again.... Also, I'm pretty sure I've got the latest saxjax.js
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 11:52:56 pm Post subject: |
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| KeithJohansen wrote: | | Actually, this just happened once so far and I'm not sure it'll happen again.... Also, I'm pretty sure I've got the latest saxjax.js |
I'd appreciate if you'd keep your eye on it. If it recurs, could you take a quick glance at your Tools->Error Console (assuming you're in Firefox) and see if there's anything interesting or relevant at the end?
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TsukasaZX
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2010 11:56:49 pm Post subject: |
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Can't... I accidentally closed the tab without thinking so I've pretty much lost the massive FAIL... if it reoccurs, I'll check the Error Console.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 30 Jul 2010 01:07:03 am Post subject: |
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| KeithJohansen wrote: | | Can't... I accidentally closed the tab without thinking so I've pretty much lost the massive FAIL... if it reoccurs, I'll check the Error Console. |
That's what I assumed, thank you, no trouble at all. If anyone else notices that bug, I'd appreciate a shout.
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comicIDIOT
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| Posted: 17 Aug 2010 12:04:19 am Post subject: |
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The Highlighting and blinking tab is catchy but how about something more visual if you're scrolled down the page and can't see SAX?
I mentioned a floating SAX so as the user scrolls SAX stays on screen, and Kerm why won't it work again?
Would it be possible to check if the <DIV> tag is on screen and if it isn't on screen, display a pop-up on the screen to alert the user?
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 17 Aug 2010 12:17:20 am Post subject: |
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| comicIDIOT wrote: | | The Highlighting and blinking tab is catchy but how about something more visual if you're scrolled down the page and can't see SAX? |
I'm all ears.
| comicIDIOT wrote: | | I mentioned a floating SAX so as the user scrolls SAX stays on screen, and Kerm why won't it work again? |
Because SAX is usually longer than your screen. It would only make sense to scroll the bottom of it if that was going to be off the top edge of the screen. I really don't like pages where elements scroll with you, though; I find that super-obnoxious.
| comicIDIOT wrote: | | Would it be possible to check if the <DIV> tag is on screen and if it isn't on screen, display a pop-up on the screen to alert the user? |
Indeed it would; I'd just need a good way to figure out if the div was onscreen.
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comicIDIOT
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| Posted: 17 Aug 2010 12:24:26 am Post subject: |
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| KermMartian wrote: | | comicIDIOT wrote: | | The Highlighting and blinking tab is catchy but how about something more visual if you're scrolled down the page and can't see SAX? |
I'm all ears. |
I managed to mix my paragraphs, the last one was suppose to follow this. I just forgot to merge them 
| Quote: | | comicIDIOT wrote: | | I mentioned a floating SAX so as the user scrolls SAX stays on screen, and Kerm why won't it work again? |
Because SAX is usually longer than your screen. It would only make sense to scroll the bottom of it if that was going to be off the top edge of the screen. I really don't like pages where elements scroll with you, though; I find that super-obnoxious. |
Find it annoying for "Share" links but if it's a live feed such as chat it could be beneficial.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 17 Aug 2010 12:31:20 am Post subject: |
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| comicIDIOT wrote: | | Find it annoying for "Share" links but if it's a live feed such as chat it could be beneficial. |
I could see the benefit of a little 16x16 chat icon that would softly pulse at one corner of the screen if you had a SAX highlight inbound. However, that would be the most intrusive that I'd prefer.
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Eeems
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| Posted: 06 Nov 2010 10:20:37 pm Post subject: |
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I don't really remember exactly if this has been covered or talked about a little, but how about having an option to hide SAX or turn it off on the user's end? No just the timeout thing. That way if they are connected on IRC they don't have to use up their CPU with SAX running and giving the same stuff.
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 07 Nov 2010 12:21:54 am Post subject: |
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| Eeems wrote: | | I don't really remember exactly if this has been covered or talked about a little, but how about having an option to hide SAX or turn it off on the user's end? No just the timeout thing. That way if they are connected on IRC they don't have to use up their CPU with SAX running and giving the same stuff. |
Disable it on a per-user basis, or on a per-window basis? I'd assume you mean on a per-user basis; maybe have a little switch on SAX itself that would turn it off for you until you turn it on again? I'd certainly be in favor of that, as would my bandwidth. 
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Eeems
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| Posted: 07 Nov 2010 12:25:57 am Post subject: |
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Per user My bandwidth would like this too Same with my CPU
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