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Aes_Sedia5
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 Posted: 06 Jun 2012 05:55:39 pm Post subject: Aes's PC upgrade |
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Well my newest PC i plan on getting is This barebones kit from Tigerdirect.com Its 400 dollars after mail in rebate.
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8GB DDR3 ram 4GBX2
2TB HDD
3. something GHz 6core AMD
Sata DVD drive
6 Sata port Mobo. can support up to 16GB of ram.
Sweet case that holds 3X 120MM fans, with perfect slods for hardware modding and lighting.
supports raid 1, 0 and 10
comes fully equipped. Its so cheap because i have to assemble it, but that is easy. Should take an hour or 2 at most. What do you all think?
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KermMartian
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| Posted: 06 Jun 2012 07:22:46 pm Post subject: |
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You already have mouse, keyboard, and a display, Aes? Also, I noticed this: "Currently Out Of Stock!".
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Aes_Sedia5
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| Posted: 06 Jun 2012 07:25:59 pm Post subject: |
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Yea it just went out of stock, hoping it will come back. if not I will spend 30 dollars and go the next level up. And yes, i have all the perphirals needed.
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Kllrnohj
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Barebone kits are pretty pointless, and that CPU is already on the old side.
Oh, and that case isn't all that good. Not bad, but it isn't a "sweet case"
What exactly are you looking to do with the computer? Gaming? Multithreaded stuff (video encoding, etc..)? Just web browser?
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Aes_Sedia5
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| Posted: 06 Jun 2012 11:46:44 pm Post subject: |
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Mostly just a college computer. Programming papers mild gaming. I have a low budget. As in. It's pushing it to pay for that. The case is better than my current default old dell case. And I only have a pentimento 4 CPU ATM.
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Kllrnohj
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| Posted: 07 Jun 2012 09:49:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Aes_Sedia5 wrote: | | Mostly just a college computer. Programming papers mild gaming. I have a low budget. As in. It's pushing it to pay for that. The case is better than my current default old dell case. And I only have a pentimento 4 CPU ATM. |
For a general college computer you'll really probably want a laptop, not a desktop.
Your P4 should be running fine for all the stuff you just described, is it not?
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Aes_Sedia5
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| Posted: 07 Jun 2012 11:57:24 pm Post subject: |
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yea but if I get too much into multitasking, it dies and just laggs too much. I do too much at once all the time. Also I hate laptops, if something goes wrong you cant just fix it. You cant upgrade, you just replace it. Desktops you can upgrade one piece at a time for the most part. and I can fix anything wrong with it on my own. Just my personal opinion.
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Kllrnohj
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 12:18:24 am Post subject: |
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| Aes_Sedia5 wrote: | | yea but if I get too much into multitasking, it dies and just laggs too much. I do too much at once all the time. Also I hate laptops, if something goes wrong you cant just fix it. You cant upgrade, you just replace it. |
Laptops are mobile, can go to lectures and take notes, and don't take up precious, precious dorm room space.
| Quote: | | Desktops you can upgrade one piece at a time for the most part. |
In theory, yes, in practice, no. For example, you can't upgrade anything in your current computer.
| Quote: | | and I can fix anything wrong with it on my own. |
No, not really. "fix" just means "replace broken parts" - and you can absolutely do that with laptops as well.
Anyway, I would suggest this:
MSI A75A-G55: $100
G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB): $40
AMD A8-3870K: $120
That covers mobo, RAM, CPU, and GPU (the A8-3870K has a Radeon 6550 on die - which is pretty speedy)
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 12:08:04 pm Post subject: |
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ok thanks. and I am not too worried about dorm space, my college has HUGE dorms, and desks built right in for computers. but I do see your point.
I will look into those parts you said. I do have a current case, that has 4 fans built into the clear siding, and its all backlit. Standard mobo should fit it. So case is not a big deal.
I have a few 160/250GGB drives, so storage is not a huge deal, depending on the number of sata ports on that mobo.
How much would a good PSU for that set up cost me?
Edit, Looked over the parts, would work really good. and its 150 dollars cheaper than my barebones. I will look around for a PSU to fit that. (And all my extra fans.. 
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You should probably get at least a 500Watt supply for that, I'd think, to be on the safe side and for the sake of future-proofing.
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ok, 500W. so far newegg is hating me with PSUs. (I dont really know that much about PSUs either.. )
Edit: Will This PSU Power that mobo/cpu fully? Pretty sure the 3X4pin perpherials are the standard 4 pin power the old IDE type drives used right? I have 2 fans that use that power, so that would work nicely.
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Yes, the 3x 4-pin peripherals are the 4-pin Molex connectors. That seems a bit cheap for a 600W PSU, and it's an off-brand, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see that the reviews are fairly positive.
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 02:10:07 pm Post subject: |
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ok so that is good to go with then?
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| Aes_Sedia5 wrote: | | ok so that is good to go with then? |
Yup, Silverstone makes decent units. Personally I'm a fan of Corsair's, though, like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 10:31:09 pm Post subject: |
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is 24 pin and 20+4pin the same? What does that mobo need ,I could not find it.
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| Aes_Sedia5 wrote: | | is 24 pin and 20+4pin the same? What does that mobo need ,I could not find it. |
24 pin is a single 24-pin header, 12 pins long and 2 pins wide. 20+4 is two separate headers, one 10x2, one 2x2.
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 10:45:19 pm Post subject: |
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ok, so the mobo looks like its just a single port, so 24 pin. The PSU that Kllrnohj showed me was 20+4pin. Will it still work?
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| Posted: 08 Jun 2012 10:49:56 pm Post subject: |
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It has the extra +4 - take a look at the corner of the board near the ports and the CPU socket. It's a black square connector, fairly large-pitch.
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ah ok. So i will go with that PSU Then I think. more than enough connectors than I will ever need.
hmm. not to be a pain, but the long black power port on the mobo, is 24pins. I counted it. its 12X2, unless i totally misunderstood..
never put a computer together from scratch before..
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| KermMartian wrote: | | It has the extra +4 - take a look at the corner of the board near the ports and the CPU socket. It's a black square connector, fairly large-pitch. |
Wrong.
20+4 refers to a main power connector with 20 pins and a connected +4 which extends it to the full 24. This is entirely different from the P4 CPU connection. It'll work.
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